Putting The Pieces Together: Part 2

This article is a followup to an article I wrote earlier this year and will probably be a bit disorganized and I apologize for that. We continue to uncover a lot of pieces to the prophetic puzzle and it looks like we may have little time left to share it. Normally I like to move slow on research and test it out thoroughly, but because of the lateness of the hour I want to share with you some of the highlights being discussed in our fellowship (credit to Adam, Barry, Brad, Daniel, Greg, Jeff, Jim, Paul, and Scottie for different bits of insight).

Moving Forward

Many people were disappointed by 9/23 and the scoffers really came out of the woodwork. The media promoted and sensationalized a false narrative that Christians were claiming the world was going to end, which just added to the hype. No one claimed that the world was ending and in regards to the rapture, we have said the same thing about 2017 for the past year and a half: we don't know for sure the day or hour. No one at Unsealed, nor among those that I fellowship with, are claiming a special insight not available to the Church at large. No one is claiming to be a prophet. We are just researching, praying, and speculating as we long to meet the LORD.

I do believe Revelation 12:1-2 was just fulfilled and the evidence seems more and more compelling. I can't dismiss this Great Sign because it can't be debunked. It does match the description in Revelation 12. That's either the most amazing coincidence in modern history or it's by design. On the mornings of the 23rd and 24th many of us actually saw the 12-star crown rising in the east and it was a beautiful sight to behold, complete with Mercury, Mars, and Venus. This got me to thinking: observers in many parts of the world actually could see the entire Great Sign if they had looked. In Israel from about 5:40 to 6:05 AM on the 23rd and 24th the entire 12-star crown was visible in the east. Then Virgo rose while clothed with the sun followed by a faintly visible crescent moon under her feet. A roughly 4-hour time-lapse would have shown the entire sign.

Regarding the mockers, they fall into two camps, both of which fulfill prophecies to their own shame:

1. Unbelievers outside of the Church:

Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

- 2 Peter 3:3-7

2. Unbelievers who claim to be part of the Church:

But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, "My master is staying away a long time," and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

- Matthew 24:48-51

Now I know there are differing interpretive opinions about Matthew 24's dispensational placement, but I find these four verses to be fascinating because of what we're now witnessing. Isn't it interesting that Christians who refuse to look for the coming of Christ and who join in with the scoffers to falsely accuse, beat, and malign those Believers who are hoping, watching, and longing for the LORD, are repeating "no one knows the day or hour" ad infinitum, not realizing that in that same passage it is the wicked servants who are caught unaware. It is the wicked who are in the dark and who know neither the day nor hour. This comports perfectly with 1 Thessalonians 5:3-4, Hebrews 10:25, and Revelation 3:3. Immediately following those four verses in Matthew 24 is The Parable of the Ten Virgins. We are saved through faith alone, but does the Christian who routinely mocks and beats his brother, who loves the world more than God, and who has little interest in being with the LORD actually have faith? Faith isn't in the head, it's in the heart.

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers.

- Psalm 1:1

Setting The Record Straight About The Feasts

As we continue to study and pick up the pieces some information has recently come to light that may have dramatic implications. Before you absorb this you first need to clear your mind of assumptions. I think we've all been partially blinded by the traditions of men and outside commentaries when it comes to what are commonly called "The Feasts of the LORD". Let's just stick to the Bible to get a basic framework from relevant passages in Leviticus and Numbers. Leviticus 23 is the foundational passage as it lists all seven "feasts".

1. These are moed, which means appointment or meeting. "Festival" and "feast" seem to be poor translations. To carry the correct meaning, we really need to call these "The Appointments of the LORD", because for the most part they are anything but festivals and there is often no feasting. These are divine and prophetic meetings between God and man.

2. The other Hebrew word used to define these appointments is miqra, which means convocation or sacred assembly. However, don't get moed and miqra confused - there are seven moedim, but not every moed is a miqra. Passover and First Fruits are not called miqra. There is no sacred assembly on those days. Five of the moedim have sacred assemblies (Unleavened Bread, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles). Two of the moedim have two assemblies (Unleavened Bread and Tabernacles). Thus there are seven Divine Appointments:

Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles

And there are seven Sacred Assemblies:

Unleavened Bread #1, Unleavened Bread #7, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles #1, and Tabernacles #8

3. There is no such thing as a "Feast of Trumpets" - unless you mean every moedim. This has been majorly overlooked and needs to be investigated further because it could have profound prophetic implications. 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16 associate the resurrection and rapture of Christ's Church with a trumpet (the last trumpet and the trumpet of God, respectively), which has given Christians a natural desire to associate the timing of the rapture with the Feast of Trumpets.

The problem is that neither of the two passages that define this particular appointment explicitly involve trumpets (Lev. 23:23-24, Num. 29:1). The Hebrew word used is teruah, which means shout or alarm. Hebrew has more exact words for trumpets: shophar (ram's horn) and chatsotsrah (metal or generic man-made trumpet). These words are both used in Leviticus and Numbers when a trumpet is explicitly mentioned, so let's clear this up...

Teruah:

Shophar:

Chatsotsrah:

2 Chronicles 15:14 actually distinguishes between all three:

They swore an oath to the LORD with a loud voice and with shouting [teruah] and with trumpets [chatsotsrah] and with horns [shophar].

The so called "Feast of Trumpets" is actually called a "Memorial of Shouting" in Leviticus 23:24 and a "Day of Shouting" in Numbers 29:1. Yom Teruah. Therefore the seven moedim should actually be Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Weeks, Shouting, Atonement, and Tabernacles. Rabbinical tradition has added confusion.

4. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 tells us that the trumpet which signals the rapture is the "trumpet of God". How might we identify this? In New Testament Greek all trumpets are called salpigx. No distinguishment is made between the Hebrew chatsotsrah and shophar, so we have to go back to the Old Testament to figure this out and the answer is actually pretty obvious:

First, the chatsotsrah is a man-made musical instrument (Numbers 10:2), whereas the shophar is from an animal - it is made by God.

Second, we have a clear rapture template in Exodus 19 complete with God descending, a cloud, a trumpet, and a righteous man ascending to meet Him halfway. It fits 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 like a glove:

On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled. Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently. As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the voice of God answered him. The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up...

- Exodus 19:16-20

Compare this passage to 1 Thessalonians 4:

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

The trumpet sound that accompanied God's descent, which is mentioned twice in Exodus 19, is none other than the shophar (commonly spelled shofar). Now here is the clincher for me: the term "trumpet of God" is only found in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, but there seems to be a clear reference to the trumpet that God Himself sounds in Zechariah 9:14 and the word used is shophar:

Then the LORD will appear over them, and his arrow will go forth like lightning; the Lord GOD will sound the trumpet [shophar] and will march forth in the whirlwinds of the south.

Psalm 47:5 appears to provide a double-witness that the shophar is the trumpet of God:

God has gone up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet [shophar].

The evidence seems fairly conclusive to me that neither teruah nor chatsotsrah constitute God's trumpet. The shophar is the trumpet of God.

The Overlooked Appointment

Believers recognize that Christ will return for His Church at a precise time, perhaps even on a moed, but we may not know when exactly that will be. Jesus fulfilled Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost on the exact days. There is also growing consensus that He was born or conceived on Yom Teruah or Tabernacles. However, His ascension occurred outside of the moedim, so we should never put God in a box. But if we're humble, prayerful, and watching, we should be aware of how close Christ's arrival is. Matthew 24:48-51, 1 Thessalonians 5:3-4, Hebrews 10:25, and Revelation 3:3 seem to pretty clearly indicate that watchful Believers will be aware of the time, while unbelievers and perhaps even some Believers will be caught by surprise.

My honest opinion is that the doctrine of imminency is an attempt to put God in a box just as much as those who set exact dates. Both sides fail to accept the genuine tension that exists in the Scriptures on the subject. Everyone just wants to be right in their "camp", but it usually comes at a cost - neglecting the Scriptures that the other side uses.

With that foundation laid, I want to offer a speculation that some of us are currently discussing: Atonement or Tabernacles may be better candidates for the rapture.

Numbers 10:10 describes how chatsotsrah (man-made trumpets) were blown over all of the offerings and sacrifices made on the moedim, thus in a certain sense every moed is a "Feast of Trumpets". Since Tabernacles is the last appointment, you could make an argument that it is the time of the last trumpet. However, the chatsotsrah is not the trumpet of God and these trumpets are only blown over sacrifices and offerings - they are not a general call to the people.

Is the trumpet of God ever sounded on a moed? Yes, and in fact it's the appointment that has been most overlooked as a template for the rapture: the Day of Atonement. According to Leviticus 25:9, the shophar is sounded "throughout all the land" on the Day of Atonement announcing the Year of Jubilee. In the Torah itself only one moed is explicitly identified with the trumpet and it's Atonement - and only on the Year of Jubilee. Thus at the end of every Jubilee cycle the shophar is blown throughout all the land announcing the Jubilee year. This shophar signals:

1. Liberty to all captives in the land (Lev. 25:10; compare to Rom. 7:24, 8:2, 8:21, 8:23).

2. Eating freely and rest from labor (Lev. 25:11-12; compare to Heb. 4:9-10, Rev. 2:7, Rev. 14:13).

3. Returning to your land, property, and family (Lev. 25:10, 13; compare to Is. 26:19-20, Jn. 14:2-3, Rom. 8:17, Gal. 3:29, 4:7, Eph. 1:3).

Remember that according to Leviticus 23:27, the Day of Atonement is not only a moed, but also a miqra - a sacred assembly. God's people are gathered together. And guess what else is significant about Atonement? It is the only day of the year when mankind has access to the Holy of Holies, which is why Yom Kippur is considered the holiest day in Judaism.

The Temple was a template of the heavenly realms and the Holy of Holies represented God's throne in Heaven. A thick curtain separated the people from God and only on Yom Kippur could the high priest enter in to make an offering for the people (Lev. 16:2). Jesus is the head of the body, the Church, and according to the book of Hebrews He is our High Priest who entered the heavenly places, but His entrance into Heaven was not restricted to Yom Kippur because He is God Himself. Since we are a kingdom of priests (1 Pet. 2:9), yet not divine, perhaps Yom Kippur serves as the template for when we also will enter Heaven. It's the only day Heaven is opened!

It has long been thought that Christ's visible second coming would occur on the Day of Atonement, but based on this additional evidence, perhaps the rapture will occur on that day, as well. As the only day when Heaven is opened, it could be the day the Church enters Heaven and also the day Christ and the Church return from Heaven. The Day of Atonement might then be a template and encapsulate the entire Tribulation period - the Day of the LORD. Here is a summary of points in favor of a rapture on a Yom Kippur that also coincides with the Jubilee:

1. It's the only moed explicitly tied to the shophar and this shophar is heard "throughout all the land". This might be the best candidate for the trumpet of God mentioned in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

2. The trumpet announces liberty from bondage, rest from labor, and a return to land, property, and family - all images of what Believers inherit at the rapture.

3. It is the only day of the entire year when access was granted to the Holy of Holies, and perhaps then the only day of the year when Heaven is opened and the Church can enter in.

4. A Jubilee trumpet at the rapture would mark both the end of that particular Jubilee cycle and perhaps even the end of all Jubilee cycles. Thus, in at least two different ways it would be the "last trumpet". Genesis 6:3 says that mankind would persist for 120 years. This is generally thought to be a reference to the time remaining before Noah's Flood, but it may also indicate the total number of Jubilee years from creation to the Millennial Kingdom - the length of mankind's rebellion. 120 years x 50 years = 6,000 years, which just happens to be right about where we are in history.

The obvious question presents itself: does this weekend's Yom Kippur also mark the Jubilee? There is some evidence it does:

1. Biblical years run from roughly April to April and that timeframe in 1917-1918 and 1967-1968 marked the Balfour Declaration and the conquest of Jerusalem, respectively. In the first instance the land of Israel was returned in a sense when the anti-Semitic Ottoman Empire was conquered by the British. The British government announced that the Holy Land would eventually return to the Jews and Jews were allowed to move more freely to their ancestral homeland. The very next year, in 1919, the Third Aliyah kicked off with tens of thousands of Jews returning.

In the second instance, Jerusalem was returned to its rightful owners when Israel conquered the city in addition to other portions of the Promised Land.

In 1867 the Jews were emancipated (released from bondage) in the Austro-Hungarian Empire - another event closely mirroring the biblical concept of Jubilee. Interestingly, the Austro-Hungarian Empire existed for exactly one Jubilee (1867-1868 to 1917-1918).

Furthermore, if you go back to the same April to April range in 1517-1518 you'll see another Jubilee-type event: Christians were released from the spiritual bondage of the Roman Catholic Church. The Protestant Reformation began on October 31, 1517. The 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation occurs next month.

2. Israelis actually celebrated 2017 as the Jubilee back in May, which marked 50 years since the Six-Day War on the Jewish calendar and also 70 prophetic years since the rebirth of Israel. This was the first time Jews collectively celebrated the Jubilee since before Christ. That alone should get your attention. You can read more about this Jubilee celebration here. Israel seemed to have no qualms about what they were celebrating:

3. WatchForTheDay noticed that exactly 49 prophetic years transpired between the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem on April 1, 1969 to July 17, 2017, when the Jews temporarily recaptured the Temple Mount and resumed prayer. The same amount of time transpired between June 7, 1967, when Jerusalem was recaptured, to September 23, 2015 - the Day of Atonement. The incredible precision of these two separate counts provides at least supporting evidence that we are very close to the exact year of the Jubilee. The former count might even be a possible parallel fulfillment of the separate 7 weeks of years in Daniel 9:25.

Might the rapture happen this weekend? I don't know for sure, but we should be awake and watchful. Yom Teruah ran from September 21st to 22nd (Tishrei 1). The Great Sign of Revelation 12 occurred on September 23rd to 24th (Tishrei 3). Yom Kippur is 10 days after Yom Teruah and 7 days after the Great Sign. Consider the timing in light of the following verses: Gen. 7:4, 10, 8:10, Ex. 22:30, Ex. 24:16, Rev. 2:10. Leviticus 12:1-5 has also been on our minds:

The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed."

This passage is interesting for a number of reasons. For starters, we see the image of a woman in labor just as we do in Isaiah 26:17-19, 66:7-9, Micah 5:3, and Revelation 12:1-2. It's even a male child that she delivers. Just as she remains unclean for 7 days after giving birth to the male child, so Israel remains unclean for 7 years after giving birth to the Church.

But there's more. The Great Sign of a woman in labor occurred on Tishrei 3, 7 days before Yom Kippur. The child is still in the flesh for 7 days before his circumcision. Might circumcision be a symbol of the rapture when our fleshly nature is removed (1 Cor. 15:50-55; see also Jn. 3:3-7)? Perhaps Yom Teruah marked the invisible reality that Christ's Church has finally finished its growth and gestation and the corporate baby was born, yet the corporate male child is still in its flesh for 7 days. Additionally, 33 days after Yom Kippur is the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, just as 33 days after the Great American Eclipse was the Great Sign!

Yom Kippur also happens to be 40 days from the Great American Eclipse. Were 40 days given to the world to repent just as in the days of Jonah? Just thoughts and speculation.

Don't Forget Tabernacles

There is an important Scripture that we need to address. This one simple verse holds immense importance and has caused a lot of confusion. It's Psalm 81:3:

Blow the trumpet at the new moon, at the full moon, on our feast day.

Rabbinical and Karaite Jews are divided over this verse. The word here for "full moon" might mean "concealed moon". Jewish tradition favors "concealed moon", but most biblical commentaries and the Karaite Jews favor "full moon". I won't get into that. What is most important to this topic is the fact that the trumpet mentioned here is shophar and this is not Yom Kippur. The question is what moed does the last phrase "on our feast day" point to? Commentaries are divided between Passover and Tabernacles, but the Tabernacles view is slightly more popular.

This verse is not in the Torah, but it is in Scripture, so we have to treat it as such. If the moed referenced here is Passover, then in regards to the moedim Passover is the first trumpet and the Yom Kippur Jubilee is the last trumpet. If instead this verse speaks about Tabernacles, then you might be able to argue that Tabernacles is actually the last trumpet.

Tabernacles has always been one of the "big three" moed to watch in regards to the rapture, along with Yom Teruah and Pentecost. Here is further study on why Tabernacles might fit.

Friends, we're getting closer than we could have possibly imagined. Keep looking up and maranatha!

Topics Date Speculation, Featured, Mazzaroth, rapture, second coming, Signs in the Heavens

105 comments:

daniel9/26/2017 9:18 PM
Thanks, Gary! You just shed light on a few things that have bothered me for years. Also, glad to see you weren't raptured on the 23rd. I was beginning to wonder ;-)
Daniel Matson9/26/2017 9:27 PM
Thanks for the mention Gary. I love the Mel Gibson shot. One of my favorite movies. I'd also say there are only two mentions of 49 years or seven sevens. Daniel 9 and Leviticus 25.
Matthew9/26/2017 9:34 PM
Gary, this was amazing, thank you to all watchman!
Zach9/26/2017 9:39 PM
Very good!
Mark9/26/2017 9:45 PM
The Unsealed crew are amazing! They really have a good grasp of the Bible as well as the Jewish religion.
GAMA9/26/2017 9:50 PM
Not a significant matter, but Mary is still hanging around and could conceivably still be here when the "child" is circumsized (as would be expected).
Chuck F9/26/2017 10:01 PM
Gary said:

"We continue to uncover a lot of pieces to the prophetic puzzle and it looks like we may have little time left to share it. Normally I like to move slow on research and test it out thoroughly, but because of the lateness of the hour I want to share with you some of the highlights being discussed in our fellowship (credit to Adam, Barry, Brad, Daniel, Greg, Jeff, Jim, Paul, and Scottie for different bits of insight)."

So, are you now saying that it's the feast of Tabernacles we should have been waiting for all along? or is it Atonement? Is that what this untested research has led you to? Is this latest research any more reliable than the "research" that had Clarke and others convinced that the FoT was the time?
Through and Through9/26/2017 10:13 PM
Hi

I will add to some of the discussion some thoughts I noted on Rev12dailys 24 Sept article, including an amazing consideration from Jazzy on the Jubilee year.

Part 1: Circumcision
Barry Scarborough and others have touched on Luke 2. I don’t want to replicate the discussion, but want to add to it from personal study. Apologies if this has been picked up by others, as I have not had time to read everyones personal study on it (and Numbers 8 as well).
Some of the below may be ‘stretching’ scripture a little too much, and I don’t want to be seen to be doing so, but just trying to contribute to the discussion for the next or so days on the subject.
Luke 2:21 – on the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus…’
- Question: is there a name that we will receive only upon entrance into heaven. The answer is yes, we will be given (as the bride of Christ) a secret name. Rev 2:17 “to the one who is victorious…I will give that person a white stone, and on the stone will be engraved a new name”. Note that Jesus name was not officially given to him by the father (Joseph) until the 8th day.
Luke 2: 22 – Barry Scarborough notes the implications of being ‘presented to the Lord’ in association with the 8th day circumcision. It is important to note the references to ‘circumcision’ in the OT in reference to Gods covenant relationship with Israel. Note that although only Israel was unique with regard to the covenant relationship, it is interesting to note that, should we be taken up on the 8th day post 23 Sept, it would again be God fully turning his attention back to Israel, a sign of God not forgetting the covenant relationship with Israel, and my goodness, what a sign to Israel (of the original circumcision covenant) it would be!

In addition - Luke 2 notes "this child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel...". The fall could include Israels rejection at Christs first coming, and their rise mid-trib post rapture (whether pre-trib or pre-wrath).

The other curious thing about circumcision is that it is a removal of the ‘flesh’. In Colossians 2: 11 we read “and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ”. Again – could this also be a dual reference to being born again, and being “rev12 born again and circumcised” etc, particularly putting off this earthly body, and finally getting to wear our incorruptible one (I see that Gary has noted this above as well)!

Luke 2: 22 – Jesus had to be presented to the Temple, his FIRST visit to the Temple of God. Note that the Church is the Temple of God, and while there is no physical temple in heaven per se, “the Lord God Almighty and the Lamp are its temple”. (Rev 21:22), so as we are snatched up to heaven, we make our first entrance into the heavenly Temple, which is the Father and the Lamb. This could also be at the end of the 7 years, rather than 7 days post Rev12 sign.
Barry has already gone through Luke 2:34 “and to be a sign that will be spoken against”, so I wont repeat that here.
Through and Through9/26/2017 10:13 PM
Part 2: Jubilee

Jazzy made an fascinating point on the Jubilee 'return of the field' side of things, where she noted Lev 27:24 "'In the year of jubilee the field shall return to the one from whom he bought it, to whom the possession of the land belongs." Jazzy then referenced 1 Corinthians 3:9 "For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building." I thought this was incredibly interesting.

Some more thoughts on the Lev 27 preceding verses (vs 21) "When the field is released in the Jubilee, it will become holy, like a field devoted to the LORD; it will become priestly property". Our great high priest will take possession of his Holy (set apart) people. While we have already been made holy in our spirit (through his holiness), our flesh is corrupt.

1 Corinthians 3:23 and you "belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God" - we became (and will fully become) his property.

and sticking with the theme...Rev 14:3 "And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth". The word 'purchased' can also mean redeemed (according to lexicon). Now come to Lev 25:52 "and if few years remain until the year of jubilee, he shall so calculate with him. In proportion to his years he is to refund the amount for his redemption." and we know that he is our ultimate kinsman redeemer. He has redeemed our spirit/souls, and he will redeem our earthly bodies as well (Millenial reign), even though we put off our 'earthly' bodies and put on incorruptible ones.

Now we know that we have already been fully redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and we are made clean. But if the body of Christ (which you note as the 'field') was to be corporately redeemed, then it would be in the year that we wouldn't (or couldn't) make payment ourselves...being a Jubilee year of course.

Ryan
Mike9/26/2017 10:14 PM
Made me think the final "manifestation" of the current spiritual reality we live in - is possibly on atonement! Specifically, we are currently seated in the heavenlys in Christ, we have access to the holiest of holies, beyond the veil of the flesh, by the blood of Jesus, and we have now received the atonement through our Lord Jesus Christ!
Jimboni9/26/2017 10:35 PM
Being in good Company, like David, it is all way too wonderful for me. Still, I must say a deep thanks to our Lord for this thoughtful, authentic and rich post and the field of broad scattering it is pulled from. Oh, that it may be so :) Maranatha!
Peter9/26/2017 10:45 PM
Dear Gary et al, really appreciate your energy, enthusiasm and tenacity. Been such a blessing! Maranatha!
Peter9/26/2017 10:45 PM
Dear Gary et al, really appreciate your energy, enthusiasm and tenacity. Been such a blessing! Maranatha!
mksmith9/26/2017 10:57 PM
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mksmith9/26/2017 10:59 PM
Excellent meat for some serious study.... thank you!!

Incidentally, I think there's a typo above in bullet point #3. The article states:

"The same amount of time transpired between June 7, 1967, when Jerusalem was recaptured, to September 23, 2015 - the Day of Atonement."

Isn't the Rev. 12 sign on Sept. 23? And Day of Atonement on the 30th?

Thank you so much for all this wonderful info! Maranatha!
Pastor Rich9/26/2017 11:08 PM
Gary,

Thank you for the brain dump. I too am praying and asking questions as I feel so blessed to live in the age that saw the Great Sign.

The current conjunctions of the moon and Saturn, Jupiter and Spica and the clothing of Virgo in the sun are marvels to behold. Not only they catch my attention but the retrograde locations of Uranus in Pisces and Neptune in Aquarius also have my attention.

The Hebrew verb "נָבַע" (naba) comes to mind, meaning to flow, spring, bubble up. I share this in context of (Psalm 19:2) in which we are given that "the heavens declare the glory of God" and that they "pour out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge."

One example:

Take a look at the constellation Aquarius and the location of the planet Neptune. Now dig on the mythological roots of the names of each. Aquarius, being Ganymede who decided to *pour out* all of the wine, ambrosia, and water of the gods upon the Earth, causing inundating rains for days upon days, which created a massive flood that flooded the entire world.

Neptune being the 8th planet in the solar system and named for the Greek god of fresh waters and sea. Thinking of the number eight, boys, as we all know, are to be circumcised on the 8th day. The number 8 symbolizes circumcision of the heart through Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit. Those in Christ are becoming a new creation, with Godly character being created by the power of God's Spirit.

More interesting is possible parallels between the Jubilee Year (seven, sevens) and the 7 weeks (49-days) of the spring harvest. The next day, the 50th day, is Pentecost. This day is also the eighth day of the seventh week. I think this 8th and 50th day combination could picture the first resurrection when the saints will be raised from the dead and made immortal. After the 7-days of the Feast of Tabernacles there is an 8th day, called the Last Great Day.

Forgive me for shooting from the hip, but as you say, time is short. I have also been looking at Uranus, the 7th planet, in Pisces and see some interesting things suggested there; namely an, "escape to the skies".

More later when I have time to properly collect my thoughts and pray on this some more.

Thank you for your continued encouragement and digging!

Pastor Rich

Ben Gillis9/26/2017 11:08 PM
Best article and comments I've read in a VERY long time. (And, there have been good ones).

I've been aware of the Lev 23 feasts since the 1980s and never picked up on shofar vs. chatsotsrah. What a gem! There are some other gems in here, too. I've got to re-read and study!!!

Yes, Atonement always seems like the day heave is opened. It's a "pattern of the heavenly things" and Moses was told to carefully follow that pattern making the temple. Also, it's the day the Azazel is let go outside the camp, which represents the world...perhaps the arche-type of Satan set loose on this earth to wreak havoc in the great trib. But, at the same time, The Bride is in the Holy of Holies...is that not a John 14 fit and more about being kept from the hour of trial, aka a rapture?

Trumpets, to me, seemed like when the great tribulation would start. And, using much info including Ancient Israel's release from Egypt, believers will go through at least part of it. We are not appointed to wrath, but that does not mean we escape tribulation.

However, I've never been clear on the timing/pacing of the seven trumpets blown. This article gives me some new food for thought to look into that.

As for Tabernacles, I understand it as symbol of 7th millennium reign of Christ with His Bride over the earth. The last great day is the Great White Throne Judgement. Now, you want to buck traditional Christianity? :-)

A second resurrection (Rev 20:6) and Eph 2:7 telling of "ages to come", i.e. those who did not actively refuse Christ in this life are not lost for eternity, rather will be resurrected after the millennium to experience what life is like with Christ running the world. Most certainly will accept. (Jn 6:44, are all persons called in this age?) What is a "better resurrection" (Heb 11:35)? Follow the theme of the first born throughout scripture, the spring AND fall harvest patterns, and more. "---ALL--- Israel shall be saved" means just that (sans willful rejection, but certainly salvation is not in the hands of men who did not get the gospel to other persons).

...we'll see, in a little over a thousand years!

In the meantime, I am prayerfully thankful for this site and the info I have to chew on, pray over and study!!!

THANKS SO MUCH!!! GODSPEED!!!
edtromba9/26/2017 11:14 PM
The article states that the silver trumpets (chatsotsrah) are not used to gather the people. But if you look at Numbers 10:2-3 you'll see that the WERE USED to call the people: "And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation." Interesting the reference to the DOOR of the TABERNACLE. Kind of reminds me of Revelation 4.

Also the argument is made that since the silver trumpets (chatsotsrah) are made by human hands they must not be the trump of God. However, the Ark of the Covenant was also made by human hands yet it's called the ARK of GOD in multiple places. Surely because it's made by human hands does not disqualify it.

I think it's odd that the Septuagint DOES make a distinction between the shofar and the chatsotsrah but this distinction is not made in the New Testament. I think if the Holy Spirit wanted to use the word for shofar, he could have used that word in the greek that certainly did exist in the 1st century.

Finally there is an interesting connection between the trumpets and birth. The Greek name for the silver trumpets that were made are σάλπιγξ salpigx (a feminine noun) which happen to be the same Greek name for the fallopian tubes. I find it interesting that there are two fallopian tubes just like there are two silver trumpets. Additionally, if you take a look at a cross section of the uterus it sure looks like the bell of a trumpet.
Chuck F9/26/2017 11:16 PM
Jesse Thompson said:

"We are all fallible men"

You got THAT right!

"your hope should be in Christ."

Uh, yeah, I know. My hope IS in Christ, which is why I'm following His command to be watchful at ALL times, not just on feast days.
BryanB9/26/2017 11:30 PM
Gary, looking forward to your commentary on Oct 1, citing more research and providing another "suggestion" for another, later day. And I take hear that that commentary will be followed by another one on Oct 8...and Oct 15...and Oct 22...etc.
David Anderson9/26/2017 11:32 PM
What Jimboni said.
Maranatha9/26/2017 11:45 PM
Excellent article Gary, and the one by Lisa Taylor you referred to at the end as well. Since 2011, having had more signs in the heavens, how much closer we are to seeing His face and hearing His voice. How cool it is to read all these knowing Proverbs says it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of Kings to search it out! How amazing and unfathomable is our God! Maranatha! Blessings in Christ and a big thank you for all the research. I look forward to diving more into all the Scriptures you presented. Charissa
Rosebud9/27/2017 12:29 AM
Want to ask a question: About the Great Sign. Jupiter having been in the womb area of Virgo for 9 months (since November 2016), represents the birth of the male-child and the King planet. It was birthed from the womb area of Virgo on September 9th, 2017... how does that impact the idea of the woman being unclean for 7 days... leading to Yom Kippur? It seems that when you are looking at Yom Kippur as a possible date for the Rapture - that maybe you are looking at the Great Sign as having been fulfilled on the 23rd/24th including what took place with Jupiter on the 9th of Sept. Might that affect the 7 day period calculation? Cuz Jupiter was out of the womb area for 14 days from the 9th to the 23rd (7 x 2)... Just a question... would love to hear your thoughts.
Karen B9/27/2017 12:38 AM
Gary - thank you for a very inspiring and insightful article and for all of your prayerful study and sharing of your findings. As I have posted elsewhere, I firmly believe the great sign of Rev 12 occurred on 9/23 in advance of the great event we are all anticipating - the Rapture. Thank you for keeping me on my toes, watching with great expectation that the day we long for is closer than ever. I'm not discouraged in the least - I'm more excited than ever! I want to be found watching for Jesus and sharing the Good News up to the very moment He calls me home. God bless you for encouraging believers like me to remain faithful, trusting in God's word, and holding fast to our Blessed Hope. Maranatha to all of you!!
Greg L.9/27/2017 2:24 AM
Really good (and desperately needed!) article. Good work, Gary.

- Greg L.
Annabel9/27/2017 3:44 AM
Gary and @all: you are such a blessing to the Body of Christ, it is so much inspiring to read your article/s and through the comments too as everyone still contributes even so much more that makes Daniel 12:4 such a vivid experience these last days!

Gary please allow another thought on the issue of DELAY in the bible: yesterday, there was a comment on some recent Adam Finks video that quoted from Habakkuk 2:3 and made me again ponder why the issue of DELAY is so much stressed in scriptures (Psalm 40:17; 90:13 / Daniel 9:19 / Ezechiel 12:25+28 twice in one chapter!) and especially in the NT (Matthew 24:48 / Luke 12:45 / 1 Timothy 3:15 / Hebrews 10:37 / 2 Peter 3:9). Now we could say: well, there is some delay of His coming even since the apostles waited 2,000 years ago - but there is more to that. We do now, in this very month and week, possibly see these scriptures FULFILLED like perhaps never before in all church history. MARANATHA! Blessings to all of you!
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Heather R9/27/2017 7:15 AM
Would you be interested to hear an alternate viewpoint? Or would it be better to wait until after 9/30 passes? I don't wish to be negative, but it's easy to show how this is not correct. Let me know if I should just go my way and leave you all in peace. Thanks :)
Paul9/27/2017 7:51 AM
Stop connecting the Rapture with the Jewish Feasts. You are setting yourselves up for a failure again!! Read carefully 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3. Apostle Paul clearly states that the Rapture (our gathering to Him) won’t happen unless the man of sin is revealed first! The apostasy in this case is him (man of sin) breaking the peace covenant with Israel. The same thing Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3. The Day of the Lord and our gathering unto Him comes as a thief in the night when they (Jews) say "Peace and safety!".
All those Jewish Feats is the shadow and the part of the Law and the Law blinds. (2 Cor 3:15) Trust the Lord and not your own understanding. Peace!
Unknown9/27/2017 8:33 AM
I hope as much as anyone that the harpazo happens this Saturday, but in my opinion it will happen in seven years. Here's why:
- Matthew 24/Mark 13/Luke 21 correspond to Revelation 6, 7/Beginning of Sorrows/opening the seven-sealed Scroll. When Matthew/Mark/Luke are compared to Rev 6, 7 the similarities are too great to be coincidental.
- The above Scriptures are not describing the Wrath of God, which comes at the opening of the seventh seal, Revelation 8:1.
- The Church is "not appointed to wrath", 1Thessalonians 5:9. Therefore it is possible that the Church might still be on Earth for the opening of the first six seals.
- Jesus said "you shall be hated of all nations for MY NAME'S SAKE", Matthew 24:9. Clearly he was referring to Christians here, who bear the NAME of Christ.
- The disciples asked, "What will be the sign of your coming and of THE END OF THE AGE?" Therefore when Jesus says, "The end is not yet" Matthew 24:6 and "Then shall the end come" Matthew 24:14, he is talking about the end of the age, this age, the Church Age. Therefore the Church must be here for the things Jesus described BEFORE the end comes, which also correspond to the first six seals.
- At present, the Church represents God to the world. If the Church is removed, who will represent God to the world? The answer is the 144,000 sealed Jews. When the sixth seal is opened, the 144,000 are sealed, THEN the Gentile believers appear in Heaven, and THEN the Wrath of God comes at the opening of the seventh seal.
- So why seven years from now? My personal opinion is that the recent eclipse and the Great Revelation 12 Sign proclaimed the Beginning of Sorrows, which must take place before the Rapture. Again, in my opinion, the second eclipse, seven years from now, probably marks the end of the Beginning of Sorrows. I believe we will quickly see the effects of the white, red, black and pale horses, then the great persecution of the Church - all within the next seven years.

Gary, in Matthew 24:30 Jesus says, "then shall appear the sign if the Son of Man in heaven..." What astronomical sign might that be? Can it be found in Stellarium?
It is then, as Jesus descends, that "a great trumpet" sounds and the elect is gathered together from one end of heaven to another (Matthew 24:31). But apparently the elect must first go through the Beginning of Sorrows which Jesus described previous to this verse.
Charlie in DC9/27/2017 8:54 AM
Perhaps it has always been a 40-day process or period of repentance (from 8/21)until...

This 'extra time' gives us more time to keep on digging and connecting-the-dots. More time tell others about God's love through His son Jesus Christ. More time to warn others about the soon coming judgment (hello, have you seen the many signs and warning signals?). The Rev 12 Sign definitely is/was a marker of "things" to come.

For further study/ listening:

1] "Yom Kippur Ends the Jubilee & 5777 with LAST TRUMP" by Adrian Lindauer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MorsNnr7zkQ

2] "When the Day of Atonement and the Jubilee Collide" by Brenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apy6OPQIZWU

3] "Yom Kippur and the Year of Jubilee" by Israeli News Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_K8weG0ayM

4] "The Feast of Yom Kippur - Atonement for Israel in the Endtimes" by Mark Biltz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_K8weG0ayM

5] "Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, 5778/2017" by PaulthePoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6H0OFh3xi8

6] "The 33+7 (40 Day) Connection Between Eclipse and Atonement 2017" by Heavenly Sign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umi3IKg2IGc

7] "Solar Eclipse & September 23 2017 Connected For Atonement" by Paul Begley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIuQ6CM8bUg

Peace to all, keep seeking and looking to Him, the one who is soon to return for His Body (the Church).

"One thing I ask from the Lord, this only do I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the Lord and to seek him in his temple. For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent and set me high upon a rock" (Psalm 27:4-5).
Charlie in DC9/27/2017 10:34 AM
Quick points regarding (maybe confirming) the Jubilee Year (being 2017):

> Jerusalem was LIBERATED from the Ottoman Empire in 1917;

> East Jerusalem was re-captured or LIBERATED in 1967 after the Six Day War;

> Control of the entire Temple Mount was taken back or LIBERATED from Jordanian control in July of 2017...

> Is the nation of Israel going to be LIBERATED or at least see the beginnings of total LIBERATION in 2017?
Unknown9/27/2017 11:21 AM
Here is some really GOOD information on youtube done in 2014 about a Jubilee rapture. Explains the differences between rapture and second coming too which many people are getting confused! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGz3S2u0_2w
Ryan L.9/27/2017 1:07 PM
Love the article Gary. Thank you for chiming in.

I was watching a video today that might contain another piece of this puzzle. The video is by Bible Prophecy Girl (Link Below), and she made a strong point about the Jubilee through an emphasis on two scriptures:

Leviticus 27:24
In the Year of Jubilee the FIELD will revert to the person from whom it was bought, the one whose land it was.

1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s FIELD, God’s building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8UlQ9xSUc
Unknown9/27/2017 1:15 PM
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BryanB9/27/2017 2:07 PM
How do you all know the Rapture didn't already happen? Mighty presumptuous to assume that because you are still here, that others weren't Raptured.
Carol9/27/2017 3:14 PM
Oh me,oh my, my brain can't take it all in.
Unknown9/27/2017 3:32 PM
Leviticus says the jubilee trumpet is blown after 49 years to consecrate the 50th which would have been the feast of atonement 2016. Not 2017. 5777 was the jubilee year im not understanding why you would blow the jubilee trumpet at the end of the jubilee year and not at the start as said by leviticus 25:8-9

I havnt had anyone explain why im wrong and im desperately seeking for an answer
Charlie in DC9/27/2017 3:51 PM
Unsealed and others have discussed the coming great deception|delusion, but since we are close, very close to this time, here is a good (video) reminder:

"Ultimate End Time Deception Is Coming Soon And It Will Be Huge"

From Think About It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNET-uMauEw
Damian9/27/2017 5:55 PM
Thanks Gary. As always, you do a great job. Now you have me wondering about 1Thes 4:16. Maybe it's like this - For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout (which was last week on Yom Teruah), with the voice of the archangel (that's Michael getting ready for the heavenly battle with the dragon from Rev 12) and with the trumpet of God (shophar on the Jubilee Atonement this week). Hmmm...
Chuck F9/27/2017 7:01 PM
Gary said;

"As are we. No one is arguing it has to be a moed. I even made that point in this article - not to put God in a box. Christ's ascension was not on a moed, after all."

Well, if you truly are watching *every* day, why do you attempt to discredit the idea of Rapture imminence, as you did here:

"My honest opinion is that the doctrine of imminency is an attempt to put God in a box just as much as those who set exact dates."

The absurdity of that statement should be obvious.

The doctrine of imminence--that the Rapture can take place at any minute, independent of any signs--leaves God "free" to catch up His Church regardless of the prophetic timetable, not to mention our perception of it. It is the very *antithesis* of putting God in a box. The date-setters and feast day-setters (and their "date-approximator" brethren) are the ones who put God in their boxes.

Your rejection of the biblical doctrine of imminence is a major red flag. You *cannot* have it both ways. If you reject imminence, you are in effect saying that there are some days between now and then that the Rapture can't or isn't likely to happen. That is *not* watching EVERY day.

LizDisMe9/27/2017 10:09 PM
Gary,
I want to share what the Lord told me 2/13/16 God has placed my home on a beautiful landscape with lush grass, trees and flowers. He has taken the Mortgage bank and detached it from my home and moved it out of sight of my home, past the wall and Gate.(spiritual wall) This is now a blessed house the Mortgage bank cannot see it or touch it. It is safe in all storms, it's pipes, electrical, and the whole house is safe from harm or trouble. In the day my Lord Jesus calls me home, the Gate will open and the Mortgage bank will be able to see the house again.
As time went on I could understand this better, This sounds like the garden! My front lawn has been full of grubs and just dirt no grass, but this year it's green and my son has been planting (not normal behavior for him) I don't have a wall or gate or even a fence, but I took it as a hedge of protection and the gate is Jesus! I haven't had any power failures when others around me did, my plumbing is old and only God is keeping it together. I am so blessed. The house went into foreclosure and they set the auction date for Oct. 3rd. So I was excited to see the Sign thinking I'm leaving here, bank you can have all this world just give me Jesus! Now the 29th I'm still believing that the day the Lord calls me home the gate will open! I had checked off Sept 29 and Oct. 4-5 on a Jewish calendar before I heard about the Revelation 12 sign so I'm convinced especially with all the information you give us and I follow Scottie Clarke too. I'm so excited but sadly my son is a scoffer, but I pray for him. And in case he has to see to believe I'm leaving detailed left behind letters for him.
God bless you!
Liz
izaates bar monobazeus9/28/2017 9:39 AM
So why is it that in the end the should under the alter crying out to God bring down judgement. I mean it seems to me if all the so called saints are evacuated to heaven there won't be any left to be persecuted and murdered for their souls to end up under the alter.
Some of the saints are definitely not raptures. Some live right to the end and unto them death doest not come. The rapture as it is conjectured here could quite easily turn out to be the rupture. I agree it does say that the saints will be caught up into the clouds. But it also says there will be persecution, war, death, and saints on earth right through until His coming.
Unknown9/28/2017 10:06 AM
Gary, I have been studying this a lot and your article is very well done and I see a case for day of atonement. The one question I have is "no man knows the day or the hour" sounds like yom Teruah language. Do you have a comment on that? Arva
mb879/28/2017 10:55 AM
Compared to the beginning of September up to the time of the Great Sign, this week seems to be pretty calm around the world. Yes there are still problems around the world but no major natural disasters and no imminent threats of nuclear war. Behind the scenes things are still going on, but things are relatively quiet in comparison.

Is this the calm before the storm?
Just A Prairie Girl9/28/2017 10:50 PM
The Yom Kippur rapture makes sense when you look at the shadows and ultimate fufillment.

For YK, seal 7 is a heavenly enactment of the YK ceremony. This will be the shadow. The ultimate fulfillment comes at the second coming.

https://redmoonrapture.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/yom-kippur-do-we-go-up-as-wrath-comes-down/
Just A Prairie Girl9/28/2017 10:52 PM
Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) – Tishrei 10

The true / substance fulfillment of the Day of Atonement will be at the second coming of Christ. Whether this is the revelation as Warrior King mounted on a white horse for the Battle of Armageddon (Revelation 19), or the 7th Bowl Judgement (Revelation 16:17-21), I am not sure.

If there is a shadow fulfillment of the Day of Atonement this year, I believe it will be due to the association of the wrath of God beginning. I want to examine the following passages:

Leviticus 16, Yom Kippur ceremony on earth (shadow)

11 “Aaron shall present the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. He shall kill the bull as a sin offering for himself. 12 And he shall take a censer full of coals of fire from the altar before the Lord, and two handfuls of sweet incense beaten small, and he shall bring it inside the veil 13 and put the incense on the fire before the Lord, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is over the testimony, so that he does not die.

Revelation 8, Seal 7 Yom Kippur ceremony in heaven (fulfillment)

8 When the Lamb opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne, 4 and the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel. 5 Then the angel took the censer and filled it with fire from the altar and threw it on the earth, and there were peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake.

Note the parallels: Censer, incense as an offering, coals of fire from the altar, altar before God, smoke of the incense.

Seal 7 appears to be the initiation of the wrath of God upon the earth, starting the Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord is also known as “The Time of Jacob’s Trouble”. The 40 Days of Repentance and the 10 Days of Awe are over. Fates have been sealed, as per traditional Jewish interpretation of the Fall Feasts.

An excellent study of this can be found here, Jesus Christ initiates the Wrath of God (BeginningandEnd).

If you believe we are seeing birth pains, do you know what that really means? I mean, REALLY MEANS?

Don’t go there – Don’t go there – Don’t go there – YES, WE ARE GOING TO GO THERE! The Seals described in Revelation 6 probably aren’t what you’ve been taught. When you get a letter in the mail, do you open it at once, or pick at it over days or weeks or years? You open it, right? So you can read what’s on the document inside? It’s the same with the Seals. The Seals are currently RESTRAINING the scroll from being opened. Yes. It is EXACTLY what you are thinking. 2 Thessalonians 2.

At some point in time, the RESTRAINER, Him who restrains, is going to be removed. The right person (Lamb), place (heaven), and time (fullness of gentiles into new covenant – Romans 11:25) will have been reached.

Imagine horses at a starting gate. But they are being restrained. Chomping at the bit though, desperate to burst forth!!! So….what restrains them?

They horses of the apocalypse gallop forth the moment we leave.

When the Day of the Lord (“Tribulation”) arrives, it will be marked all at once by the arrival of widespread war, global earthquakes, famines and pestilences, terrors and great signs from heaven. Collectively, “all these” are the “beginning” of the birth pains. These are exactly paralleled in Seals 1-4 and Seal 6. The rapture of the church is pictured in Seal 5 (dead in Christ) and Seal 6 (alive in Christ).

Could it be that Seals 1-7 will be opened on Yom Kippur this year?

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Anonymous9/29/2017 12:51 PM
Thank you for this article, I'm glad you addressed the atonement possibility for the rapture.

I was looking at the dates for the Torah and Haftarah readings and noticed that on the 30th the readings are Deuteronomy 32 and 2 Samuel 22. (List is here: http://torahcalendar.com/PDF/Parashah.pdf) Interesting to note that not one, but BOTH passages are about God deliverance. In Deuteronomy 32 it says that "He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye." (Deut. 32:10) 2 Samuel 22 is David's song after God delivered him "out of the hand of all his enemies and out of the hand of Saul." (2 Sam. 22:1) It's interesting to note that this is exactly what God does after the Rev 12 sign. He prepares a place in the wilderness where the woman (Israel) is nourished for a time, times, and half a time. (Rev. 12:14) Very interesting correlation...could God be telling Israel through those scripture readings that he will deliver them and prepare a place for them in the midst of the tribulation?
Chuck F9/29/2017 5:51 PM
Paul (a commenter) said:

"Again, read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 carefully! In the first verse it says "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him". What is "our gathering to Him" means? Isn't it what we call the Rapture?
Paul clearly states our gathering to Him won't happen unless the man of sin is revealed. Plain and simple!"

I have read it carefully, many times. The apostle does mention the Rapture in the phrase "our gathering together to Him", but he does NOT connect that to the revealing of the man of sin. The "gathering" is not part of the sentence clause pertaining to the man of sin. The apostle DOES connect the DAY Of THE LORD to the revealing of the man of sin:

"For THAT DAY [the Day of the Lord] will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction..."

Plain and simple, it is the DAY OF THE LORD that is being held back, not our gathering together to Him.

Liz9/30/2017 4:45 PM
First, great article! I appreciate that you mentioned Tabernacles. You sound open minded so I am venturing into the waters here. I’m writing to weigh in with another rapture/awakening option while we are still in the midst of the Jewish feast season. On the surface, I’m sure it seems a bit like grasping for yet another date but this has been my position for quite some time. I released a book a month ago called Convergence: The Fullness of Time is Here. My book covers a lot of ground but includes a pivotal chapter on the timing of the Revelation 12 sign.

Briefly, I believe the date is October 13, 2017, a stand-alone feast day—the Eighth-Day Feast (mentioned by Pastor Rich in the comments above), also known as Shemini Atzeret. (When you dig into the significance of the one-day feast, Shemini Atzeret, I think you may get excited. http://www.triumphpro.com/shemini-atzeret-eighth-day.htm) Here is why I believe October 13 is the day. We set the place on Stellarium to Israel for obvious reasons. Why would we not also use the constellation stick figure they would have used in ancient times? It makes all the difference in the world to give Virgo more of a waist and pushes the dates back around a month resulting in the birth of Jupiter from Virgo on October 13, the Eight-Day Feast. Setterfield.org is the website where I found this figure but there are many Google images of Virgo with a waist, in one form or another, giving this theory more credibility. http://www.setterfield.org/stargospel.html#virgo

In this section on Virgo, Setterfield.org claims these figures have changed a lot over the millennia and I think you would agree when you look at the difference between Stellarium’s Virgo and the one in Google sky (in our lifetime never mind over thousands of years). There is a huge difference between these two. The difference between the ancient figure and that of Stellarium is more subtle but makes an enormous difference in the timing of the birth not the alignment.

I find it curious, in my scenario, that there are two events—the alignment and the birth, that fall on two different dates both of which are one day after a major Jewish feast. I don’t have this completely worked out yet, but I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that the tribulation is for the Jews and the rapture/awakening is for the gentile bride/church. Hence, the two dates are minor feast days. Shabbat Shuva, a repentance holiday, but there may be a double meaning here. Shuva is the Hebrew word for repentance but literally means return and could be construed as His imminent return, i.e. not September 23 but shortly thereafter. Shemini Atzeret has a wonderful message to it that speaks to me of the romance of God.

I am not writing to sell a book. It’s not about that (though all proceeds go to Kingdom causes and purposes). I desire to provide hope to you and others who may be discouraged by the current turn of events. Additionally, there is a much larger message in my book than “When is the rapture/awakening?” If you are interested, the preview of the ebook version on Amazon lets you read well into the second chapter.

Thank you for letting me intrude with my thoughts! Bliss to you!
Liz
Mark10/01/2017 9:30 PM
Wow! With all this talk of Feasts, tabernacles & horn blowing sounds like we should all be Jewish! : )

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