Understanding the Bible: The Promised Seed
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To understand the Bible and Bible prophecy you first need to understand who the Bible is about. And here's a big hint: the who isn't you (or me). We're minor characters in it. The entire Bible was written because sin entered creation. And because sin entered creation, a perfect God had to deal with this aberration one way or another. The way He has chosen to deal with it ends up being a demonstration of the most important attribute of His character: faithful love. Because of sin, all of creation is able to learn the depth of God's love in a way that could otherwise never be known.
The who is the Promised Seed—the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. And through faith, everyone is invited to be joined to that Seed. To understand the prophecy of the Seed and who this Seed is, is to understand Bible prophecy and the whole story of the Bible.
And I fell at [the angel's] feet to worship him. But he said to me, 'See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.'
- Revelation 19:10
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the One I meant when I said, 'A Man who comes after me has surpassed me because He was before me... He must increase, but I must decrease.' "
- John 1:29–30; 3:30
Bible prophecy and the Promised Seed are inseparable, which is why we can't teach one without the other. This is also why pastors and Bible teachers who steer clear of prophecy are really steering clear of Jesus Himself.
So, without further ado, here is the Bible in a nutshell...
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Oh I can not wait for Jesus to come -l do pray now is the time I want to be with him ...
ReplyDeleteMe, as well! Very, very soon.
DeleteUmmm sorry to burst your bubble but what makes you think it's "really soon" what if your wrong which personally I think you are. You claim that you aren't date setters and all that but contradict yourself when you lead people on with these elaborate tables, equations, and theories. I know this world is wicked and many are desperate for Jesus to return but when the "high watch" dates come and go or the guestimated dates come and go I don't see apologies for failing. Jesus commands us to be ready but he doesn't even know when he's returning. I truly believe we will never outsmart God or even come close to his thinking to me that's so arrogant of us. So why would we even expect to even fathom the notion of pinning down a date. I say all this with love I'm just stating my opinion I personally feel this site needs to stop with the predicting and just love people. That's my humble opinion sorry not sorry.
DeleteNo worries. Bubble not burst.
Delete9 For we know in part and we
prophesy in part,
10 but when the perfect comes,
the partial will pass away.
(1 Corinthians 13:9-10 ESV)
The Apostle Paul continues,
12 For now we see in a mirror
dimly, but then face to face.
Now I know in part; then I shall
know fully, even as I have been
fully known.
13 So now faith, hope and love
abide, these three: but the
greatest of these is love.
(1 Corinthians 13:12-13 ESV)
Amen.
Agreed?
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DeleteWhen we are wrong we should hold our hands up and say we are wrong. We should walk with humility before our Lord and before each other.
DeleteThat said, I do not know that true watchmen ever really say "thus sayeth the Lord." Watching is watching and when watching on a tower that looks out dimly in the distance you try and focus your sight. When you focus your sight you try and understand what you see. Sometimes watchmen see what is not there and it is a false alarm. Sometimes watchmen see correctly. Should we shoot the watchmen for seeing incorrectly? Should the watchmen however tell the truth and say, "I did not see that correctly, false alarm!"
You get the idea? Move along if this is not for you, but let us not say that the people here are wrong in what they are doing. And please, show all of us where Gary sets a date in this post. So why bring this out now? context?
Respectfully, Paul and Barnabas went their own way, they were both effective for the kingdom. I for one am not going to dismiss or put a basket over the light of prophecy just because it is hard to sort out sometimes. These people teach the Word and are using their spiritual gifts. We should all do the same, whatever those gifts are.
Pastor Rich - this comment is for YOU, out of my love for you.
DeleteWhen does perfect come? And when does prophesy in part pass away?
Is it not at his coming?
1 Corinthians 13:8-13 says that when Jesus comes we will see him FACE-TO-FACE...and at that time ALL prophesy is done away with. Once we see Jesus, there will be NO MORE prophesy!
How can this be true with a pretribulation rapture viewpoint? Won't we see Jesus when he comes at the resurrection/rapture?
Therefore, the 2 witnesses CANNOT be prophesying after Jesus has come and we see him face-to-face. If so, this passage would be a contradiction, and we know that the bible is perfect and does not err. All prophesy ends after we see Jesus at his coming.
In one of the most beautiful books in the bible (1 Corinthians 13)...all about LOVE...the truth of the timing of the resurrection/rapture is there for all those who have eyes to see. Love the TRUTH...buy the TRUTH and do not sell it...Jesus is the TRUTH.
God bless
Tracy,
DeleteThe Bible doesn't err , but YOU do. One, Jesus comes for Holy Spirit filled believers IN THE AIR, he calls us up to take us away from His wrath, which we are NOT appointed to. The rapture is not His second coming, when we are with Him to take back the earth. The rapture event lets the world know that Jesus and God are real. Although the anti-christ and others will still try and deceive people to believe the lie that Satan is god and Jesus/YHWH is the bad guy.
Second, the 2 witnesses are not here to give "prophesy." They are here to witness THE TRUTH to the Jews that Jesus is the true messiah and to send God's plagues on the world. Atheism will not be in the tribulation, it's a choice between YHWH/Jesus God and Satan as god of this world. Read Revelation, there is an angel flying over humanity telling them not to take the mark!!! And there are other details that show the world understands what is happening. There are demons on earth and they know they are fighting God at the battle of Armageddon! Why are you so stubbornly holding on to your own false views, cherry picked passages, instead of accepting the full teachings in the Bible? I exhort you to repent and open your heart to the full truth. The rapture is our BLESSED HOPE!
Hi Tracy, welcome back. Long time no disagree! : ) Hope things are well with you!
DeleteI nearly resisted : ) but I think I'll make a comment on your post concerning 1 Cor 13:8-13. Here is the passage:
1 Cor 13:8-13 Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. (9) For we know in part and we prophesy in part; (10) but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. (11) When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. (12) For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. (13) But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Along with prophecy, this scripture also tells us that knowledge (or at least this current condition of 'knowing in part') will be done away with when the perfection comes. So let me ask you a question - When Jesus returns, does that mean that knowledge or knowing in part is done away with for all people, from that time forth?
If I were to apply your argument I would have to say yes. But clearly the answer is no. There will be people born and raised in natural bodies during Jesus' Kingdom reign on earth that still grow in their knowledge and understanding of Him (and are required to travel up to Jerusalem each year Zech 14:16-17 to worship and no doubt learn more from Him).
Your argument falls down because you have ignored WHO this scripture in 1 Cor 13 is for and have tried to apply it to all people for all time. In other words you have ignored the WE, WE, WE throughout this passage. 'For WE know in part and WE prophesy in part...', 'For now WE see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face.' The WE of this passage are church age believers who will be perfected when He comes and see Him face to face.
It says NOTHING whatsoever to the two witnesses or any others coming after the church age. It is only for those that see Him at the rapture. The only contradiction between a pre-trib rapture and this passage, I believe, is in your understanding of it for you have ignored, or haven't seen, WHO it is that prophecy and partial knowledge cease for.
God Bless.
Hi Elgordo :) Nice to hear from you. And yes it has been a long while, but you have been in many of my prayers all this time. I see that some of those who have been eagerly awaiting a rapture any moment, any second now for months and years on end are starting to grow weary and some are losing faith. This pains my heart. And I know when May 14th comes and goes without a rapture, so many more are going to be confused and disheartened by prophesies, dreams, visions, and strong feelings they thought were from God.
DeleteIn regards to my post, you bring up a valid point *IF* it were true that,
1) Only the "church age" believers this side of the tribulation were the only ones to be resurrected and raptured at his coming, and...
2) People in the millennial age lack knowledge and do not know the Lord or the truth about the Lord.
First, in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24, Paul tells us, "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; THEN, WHEN he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come."
Paul is very specific as he states only TWO parts of the first resurrection because that is all there is before the END. Therefore, when Jesus comes, the resurrection will include ALL who belong to Christ...OT saints, believers this side of the tribulation, and believers who go through the tribulation. We are all part of the ONE BODY of Christ. There is only one body, one Spirit, one faith, one baptism, one Lord, one God and Father of all (Ephesians 4:4-5). If you don't belong to this...then you don't belong at all.
Also, scripture is clear that there is only one harvest that takes place, and it happens AT the end of the age when the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. Matthew 13:30, "Let both grow together UNTIL the harvest." Matthew 13:39, "The harvest is the END OF THE AGE/ WORLD." Just one harvest at the end of the tribulation when Jesus comes.
The COMING of the Son of Man after the tribulation (Mt 24), the resurrection/rapture that happens at the COMING of the Lord (1 Thes 4:15), the patient waiting for the appointed time of the COMING of the Lord (James 5:7), the resurrection that occurs to those who belong to Christ at his COMING (1 Cor 15:23)...all of these passages are tied together by the term "COMING" to denote the PAROUSIA (#3952)...the event by which Jesus will return after the tribulation to resurrect/rapture believers and restore all things.
Second, at Jesus' coming every eye will see him (Rev 1:7). In Ezekiel 38, when the Lord fights against Gog at the end of the tribulation, it is written in verse 20 that all creatures and people will tremble at his PRESENCE. In verse 23, THEN they will KNOW that I am the Lord.
People in the millennial period will know the Lord. He will be reigning on Earth. There will be no need for prophesy or knowledge of him. Yet it will still be their choice whether they follow Jesus or not...even with Satan is locked in the Abyss and even when he is out in order to deceive the nations again.
God Bless
There is no difference between Jew & Gentile. We have already been grafted in.Messianic Jews = Christian.
DeleteChristians are one & the same, regardless of nationality. One church. One body.
There is no longer a distinction. There is no need to return to a physical kingdom for Israel. No continuation of a '70th week' which was 'put on hold'. All have been fulfilled.
No stone left unturned.
This is not replacement theology. This is scriptural. Gap theory on the other hand, is unscriptural.
There will be no rebuilding of a 3rd temple. That is why, there is now a mosque sitting on the spot.
WE are the temple of the HS.
Christ is already ruling on the throne of David right now.
There is no need for Him to rule physically during a so-called '1000 year mil kingdom'.
His kingdom is not of this world. Christ is our great high priest. We go to Him directly.
There is no longer a need to return back to the inferior mosaic law system, of temple sacrifices during an imaginary '1000 year mil kingdom'.
Satan does not have to be bound during a future '1000 year mil kingdom'.
Satan has been bound, ever since Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father.
1000 means countless. NOT a literal 1000 years.
What does 'forgive seventy times seven times' mean.
What does 'showing love to a thousand generations' mean.
What does '12' & '10' signify in the Bible? What does 12 x 12 x 10 mean? Then you will know who the 144k really are, & who are the 2 witnesses.
How many tribes of the original Jews remain. Which tribe has to still be in existence, in order to be priests, if temple sacrifices were to be brought back?
Are the scattered remnants brought back to Israel through Aliyah, the original Abrahamic descendants?
Satan will be released to deceive the nations. That is why, he will manage to get the nations to come against Christ at the end of this age.
Armageddon & the Gog-Magog are one & the same. Not separated by 1000 years.
You think bullets & guns can harm a resurrected body, if the war only comes at the end of an imaginary '1000 year millennium'? Think!
A child living up to a minimum of 100 years old & putting his hand into a snake hole are figurative. It means that there will be tremendous peace & safety & no more deaths & pain during eternity, which is the next age.
NOT an inference to a future '1000 year mil kingdom'.
There will be no secret rapture. When He comes, all eyes shall see Him, & it will be too late for those who don't believe.
The coming of the Son of Man will be like lightning that can be seen from east to...
The rapture comes at the end of the age, at the 2nd coming. The separation of the wheat & tares, & the sheep & goats are one & the same.
After that, it's straight to the judgment seat & also the Great White Throne, which run concurrently.
Then a New Heaven & New Earth, for when He comes, the world shall dissolve in fervent heat.
Why bother to recreate a utopia for 1000 years & then tear it all up for a New Heaven & New Earth? Think!
Scripture says when He comes, He will put an end to death.
So why would we still have people dying in an imaginary '1000 year mil kingdom', with Christ walking amongst us? Think!
Finally eternity begins.
There is no such thing as a 'mil kingdom'. Also, no such thing as the resurrection of the wicked dead which comes much later, which is separated by 1000 years.
There are only 2 ages. This age (present evil age) & the age (eternity) to come. There is ONLY 1 gospel. Not 2 gospels (take note Hillary). Keep all these in mind, & there will not be any confusion in interpreting the book of Rev, which is the most difficult & highly figurative book in the whole Bible.
There is no such thing as 'dispensations'.
Post-trib Amill is the correct view. Always have been.
Thank you & God Bless!
Gary this is fantastic. I've been putting together an End Times syllabus for a class I'm putting on soon. I've started with "Our Blessed Hope." It's all about Jesus. Now I'm trying to get a timeline of current events from the Blood moons to the Trump peace plan. How you and others put things together on a weekly basis is incredibly astonishing. Blessings, thank you.
ReplyDeleteThank you Brent! Feel free to reuse this if you find a use. It might be a useful outline.
DeleteJesus Christ is the absolute subject and center of all prophecy. This is demonstrated very intricately from Genesis to Revelation. In fact, as most Christians may know, the Old Testament was pointing to Jesus, even the Menorah. The menorah was the seven-lamp ancient Hebrew lampstand made of pure gold and used in the portable sanctuary known as the Tabernacle of Moses used in the wilderness and later in the Temple in Jerusalem. Fresh olive oil of the purest quality was burned daily to light its lamps. It was a meeting place between the Israelites and God of sorts. In fact, he is also seen in Revelation holding one in his right hand, with him representing the middle lamp (the servent lamp). Most commentaries view him as walking in and among the seven lamps, but the Greek account portrays him in the middle – providing the light of the Servant Lamp. It is Christ that also provides the lights for the other lamps. He is seen holding them in his hand. Bottom line, prophecy is about Jesus. This is seen quite vividly in Revelation's beginning, it's very first chapter. More can be read in the link below.
ReplyDeleteREVELATION RIPPED OPEN: THE DIVINE MARK OF AUTHENTICITY
https://endtimesdarknessdescending.wordpress.com/2019/03/31/revelation-ripped-open-the-divine-mark-of-authenticity/
Yet the HRM (Hebrew Roots Movement) want to make it all about themselves.
DeleteYou are absolutely right: it ALL points to Him.
Maranatha.
The Hebrew Roots Movement ... don't even get me started. I have to work around someone who is a Hebrew roots movement person. Drives me insane. There are aspects of the Hebrew Roots teachings that certainly can be beneficial. Seeking to explore the Jewish culture and perspective, within which most of the Bible was written, opens and enriches our understanding of the Scriptures, adding insight and depth to many of the passages, parables and idioms. This is part of what is in my article above. There is nothing wrong with Gentiles and Jews joining together in celebrating the feasts and enjoying a Messianic style of worship. Taking part in these events and learning the way in which the Jews understood the teachings of our Lord can be a tool, giving us greater effectiveness in reaching the unbelieving Jew with the gospel. It is good for Gentiles, in the body of the Messiah, to identify in our fellowship with Israel. However, to identify with Israel is different from identifying "as" Israel.
DeleteIn fact, I kinda cringe when I say "There is nothing wrong with Gentiles and Jews joining together in celebrating the feasts and enjoying a Messianic style of worship. Taking part in these events and learning the way in which the Jews understood the teachings of our Lord can be a tool, giving us greater effectiveness in reaching the unbelieving Jew with the gospel." I'm not really sure if we should even go that far.
DeleteGary, as always, beautifully done. This is clear, concise and to the point. You do great work. Blessings - Sherry
ReplyDeleteThank you Sherry!
DeleteWow, my friend. Well done!
ReplyDeleteA tour-de-force!
All credit to the big man for opening my blind eyes... THE BIG G.
DeleteSomeone asked me once, when we were in a Bible study, do we need to read all the genealogies (with those hard to pronounce names!)? To which I replied that they must be there for a purpose; God's purpose. Now you've made it crystal clear what that purpose is. Thanks Gary for this plain & simple explanation that anyone could understand. Praise God. I feel excited about our part in this wonderful plan. How we will praise & worship Him when we're finally home! He made it possible. Without Him we would have no hope.
ReplyDeleteWonderful - this is amazing. Prayers that this opens even more eyes. Well done! Amen!
ReplyDeleteGary, can you possibly send me that chart in a PDF? Kaleeto777@gmail.com
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DeleteScratch that. New link! http://board.unsealed.org/attachment/download/674
DeleteGreat article Gary. Thanks for pulling that chronology all together. Really Great work. May the Lord bless you for feeding his flock so abundantly.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Gary. Very encouraging to see the story and parallels presented in this format.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteFor those of you who haven't seen it yet, Geri at Rapture Ready has an article on the HRM.
ReplyDeleteI always appreciate her take on things, her Jewish ancestral perspective and impecable research always lend them credibility.
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Anonymous and Anon - no one is dating setting. From a mathematical and scientific perspective, it is absolutely and astoundingly (and a bunch of other BIG adjectives) AMAZING how everything FITS together. On the one hand it's mind boggling to see how dates and times fit together (God is THE MASTER PLANNER) and on the other very humbling to see it all coming together. And to know that as in days of old, we too are being given signs of the times in order to know what's coming - just as God said. That's all (ALL!?!). Unsealed is just laying out the puzzle pieces for us - it's like looking at the picture on the puzzle box (God's Word) and fitting the pieces into the frame wok as they're pulled out of the box. We can see the picture puzzle taking shape - we're just waiting on that last piece for it to be complete!
And... Jesus DOES know when. He didn't while on earth. Read Jack Kelly's articles at Grace Thru Faith.
Blessings!
Ok but one thing is to layout "mathematical and scientific equations" the other is to put your stock in it and believe in those equations. How many failed predictions have come and gone in the past? As far as Jesus knowing where in scripture does it say he knows? That's a first I've ever heard that yikes! Hmmm not sure that sounds biblically sound.
DeleteI agree... let's not set specific dates. In the run up to 9/23/17 I was clear and posted on many of the articles and videos about it that IT WAS JUST A SIGN. And I continue to fervently believe that.
DeleteJesus definitely knows the day and hour *NOW*. He's glorified in Heaven.
"No one knows..." is actually a mistranslation. Using simple present tense "knows" for οἶδεν. The Greek is actually perfect indicative, indicating a completed action up to the present time. In other words: "has known". It was true in the past and it was true when Jesus spoke the words, but it has no bearing on the future.
Thank you for chiming in, Jenny.
My take on "No one knows".
Paul Dawson also has a good video on it here.
Blessings.
Amen, Gary.
DeleteI do not want to set specific dates and it is not my goal to set specific dates. With that said, there are dates which stand-out and are worthy of reporting and further study if for nothing else to drive us deeper into prayer and scripture and highlight the urgency of the message that we impart,
Salvation by faith in Christ alone.
I would pose a question to those who question watching, "If we are not called to watch, why then are we given the puzzle of pieces like 49 hours, 49 days, 49 years, 1,260, 1,290, 1,335 and numeric patterns of 3, 7, 12, 37, 73 and so on in the Old and New Testament? What's the point?"
God's watermarks are everywhere and for a reason.
Not all are given to watch. All are called to love for that is the sum total of all of the law and the prophets.
Love.
Blessings.
Well said (:
DeleteNicely laid out to show how the same message flows through the whole Bible. It's all about Jesus!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Sister (:
DeleteThank you so much Gary to have accepted to share what our Celestial Father as inspired to you!
ReplyDeleteA Message of Love and Joy as all the Messages of our Saint and Unique God.
In the Name of Jesus-Christ-God, God bless you!
Amen
Well said..I love this..I would love to use this as a guide to teach from
ReplyDeleteThese articles here and on End Times Darkness Decending along with many others are
ReplyDeletethe manna that perpetually keeps us full of the Holy SPIRIT -- Thank you for all you do.
Gary, great Spirit delivered study by the way, thank you sir! One question, I noticed in the chart 2 resurrections. I read multiple resurrections in the Bible as well. There are all sorts of directions people take that in. Can you explain how you are charting it? Specifically in regard to the Church in the "second escape." It brought more confusion to me then anything because it then sounds as if it is not pre-trib, even though I know you are pre-trib... thanks:)
ReplyDeleteAlright, here goes (:
DeleteAbraham was promised "Seed" both individually and collectively. The Seed would all be rooted in the Messiah, but would also form two collectives: the Israelites and the Church. The chart is looking broadly at all of history in regards to those three entities and how the Israelites and the Church follow the model set forth in the life of Christ.
The Church's first escape is an invisible, spiritual one that occurs when we place our faith in Christ. Our spirits are perfected forever, delivered, and "hid with Christ on high."
Our second escape is a physical escape that occurs when our bodies are changed and we are snatched to Heaven (the pre-trib rapture).
Crystal clear, thanks Gary!
DeleteHi Gary!
ReplyDeleteA BRILLIANT idea and flowchart! So well done. A blessing to the saints!!
A thought crossed my heart concerning the "The 3-Seeds" columnar portion for the Church which include "1st Escape:", "Death:", "Burial:" and "Resurrection:",
"The Church"
"1st Escape" = Belief and confession (Romans 10:9-10)
"Death", "Burial", "Resurrection & Rebirth" = Baptism (Romans 6:4-12, Colossians 2:12-13) and (John 3:3-6) regarding "Rebirth" or being born again.
Jesus demonstrates all righteousness through His baptism in (Matthew 3:13-14, Mark 1:9, Luke 3:21-22 John 1:32-34).
These notes are not exhaustive but a start for anyone interested.
PR
Yes, agreed! Spirit baptism (imho).
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DeleteSomeone get that none believer or the rains will never come....hahahahahah!
ReplyDeleteThat is so like the people I talk to all the time. Reactionary opinions who have not spent the time to research anything, safe to say that one will be left behind.
Its really sad to, in a way. this life is preparing for eternity or its nothing.
That "Great White Throne Judgement seat of Christ" is to show you why you are going to be throne alive into it. Anonymous hummmmm its so avoidable.
Very nice Post. I just wanted to add something that between vs1 and vs2 there is a great gulf of time which you can put Lucifer's rule of this planet and the dinosaurs if you want....Anyway. What I want to share is I would ask (and by the way Esdras 2 of the apocrypha books asks the same questions that we all ask except he got answers.)
ReplyDeleteWhen God created everything out of nothing the heavenly host, Lucifer was the crowning cherub song leader of heaven ruler of planet earth, remember he wants to ascend up above the clouds and enter in the sides of the north and wants to dethrone God and leads 1/3thrd of heaven in a rebellion against God. Sounds so syfy.
What gets me is those who knew God face to face rebelled. And now us who know not God face to face but have the unction of the Holy Spirit of promise, like Abraham weather before or after the Crucifixion we are sealed and no one is able to puck us out of His hand. Than You for this site!!
Ahhh the end game how appropriate is your analysts, much like The Georgia Guide Stones
ReplyDeleteTen commandments. Keep humane population down to 500ml.
I was looking at the Passover date and things of Jesus day. The women were the first at the Tomb, still dark (sunset to sunset Jewish time). The stone they were concerned about was already rolled away first day of the week Sunday. And Mathew records those who rose with Him after His Resurrection went into the city (night of the living dead, zombies and such, do you really think these people can be killed?No)
When the solders tried to arrest Jesus they couldn't(never a man spoke the way this Man speaks). these date come up again next year and coupled with this sites knowledge of the signs Jesus spoke of only makes sence to this generation.
Next year Wed, 08 April 2020 at sundown (15th of Nisan, 5780) sign of the prophet Jonah iam ready and waiting 40 days later were changed in a moment!
Awesome Gary! Your pic comment on Jeconiah reminded me of Chuck Missler describing once the 'blood curse of Jeconiah'. He noted that God himself placed a curse on Jeconiahs bloodline - announcing that none of Jeconiahs descendants would ever sit on the throne (Jeremiah 22:30...there is your SEED word!). This nullified Jeconiah's royal lineage to Jesus (Dr Missler used to comment that Satan would have thought Gods plan was thwarted). However Chuck mentioned that while Jeconiah was blood line through to Joseph (Matthew 1), one other of Davids descendants found its way through to Mary (although it mentions the line through to Joseph again in Luke 3 but this would have been Mary due to custom...etc). So while Satan tried to defile the seed line again, God pointed out a way for his promise to come to fruition! Ryan
ReplyDeleteHi Ryan!
DeleteThe gospels outline the two blood lines, Joseph and Mary via Matthew and Luke and reveal many interesting things. I outlined them in a Calc (Excel) spreadsheet for study. Yes, the royal blood line is restored to Joseph through his marriage to Mary.
God wins!
Pray for us if you would. A local ICT recruiter has expressed interest in my CV via LookSee. We have long hoped to come to NZ and perhaps, just perhaps, there is a glimmer of that happening? I am an artist, broadcaster and systems engineer by trade as well as a church planter and pastor -- so being a bi-vocational church planting pastor is right up my alley.
Lord willing, and if we're not called Home immediately, perhaps we will get to meet in Aotearoa?
PR
Pastor Rich - that would be awesome to see you in NZ! The place is under a good chunk of spiritual attack at the moment, with government looking to introduce hate speech laws (will be a long debate I am sure...), abortion looking to be decriminalised, and assisted suicide/euthanasia currently in its second reading. We need all the prayer help we can get! Let us know how you get on. Ryan
DeleteAron Gladden...lol...long no see your heresies.
ReplyDeleteYou are greatly errored, please allow me to once again TRY to enlighten you.
#1) You have ZERO Scriptures show us meeting Jesus in the air at PRE TRIB..you speak a false talking point, with none of Gods Word as confirmation, whatsoever.
#2)The 2 Witnesses DO POROPHESY, *Rev.11:3 "And i will give power to Mt two witnesses, *and they will PROPHESY one thousand two hundred and sixty days clothed in sackcloth."
So you LIED and TAKE AWAY FROM the Words of the Prophecy...as usual.
#3)2 Thess.2;9 not appointed to Wrath, is *PRE WRATH* ...not Pre TRIBULATION. Learn to read before you try to teach, and read a Bible before you think of arrogantly rebuking someone, while you LIE against the 2 Witnesses in Rev.11:3.
#4)The Saints DO NOT RETURN at thd 2nd Coming...
*Isaiah 26:*20* says they are hidden behind closed doors "UNTIL THE INDIGNATION IS PAST."
Read it !!!
#5)The Saints RETURN WITH HIM @THE RAPTURE, *1Thess.4:*14* *1 Thess.3:13.
#6) You been telling the SAME LIES since you FALSELY PROPHECIED the Rapture on 9/23/17 and blasphemed the Holy Spirit by CLAIMING that He revealed that FALSE RAPTURE to you.
#7)How many alternate accounts do you have now,Boy ?
You had about 5, 2 years ago.
You are a WOLF in Wolves clothing. You aint slick...but you are devious, and delusional.
There is no RESURRECTION to eternal life at PRE TRIB in the Bible whatsoever.
Post it or apologize for being a continual heretic and arrogant liar.
Aron Gladden aka YESUA RULES my comment is for YOU.
ReplyDeleteShane....Right on. I come in once in a blue moon posting we have many many months at the least left, and I get blasted as date setting??...while there is this constant upcoming events that are about to whisk us off this earth.
ReplyDeletePeople, we aren't being raised until the last day as the book of John mentions 5 times. That's not counting all the other scriptures I would have to cut out of my Bible that counter pretrib. We will see the AC come to power then still have 3.5 years.
I say this in love as please observe my demeanor and then notice the demeanor of the comments back. Pre trib is a very clever demonic deception of genuine sincere Christian's. I told myself I have said this before here, and I wouldn't say anymore....but there are a few that have contacted me when I left my email address.
God bless us as we pray for enlightenment and discernment.
Thank you!! I posted earlier and I got told to leave the site because I lovingly rebuke and don't necessarily agree with all these anticipated rapture dates.
DeleteRemarkable, Gary!! God bless you fine brother in Christ
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ReplyDeleteHi Brother.
Thank You !!!
I just wonder if they think the LAST DAY is before the Tribulation.
I actuall just had a Pre Tribber post *John 6:40* to me as "proof" of OSAS, but didnt realize how bad it DEBUNKED Pre Trib.
That Secret Pre Trib Rapture must be TOP SECRET, because its certainly not in the Bible.
That was an EXCELLENT COMMENT you wrote, you should drop in more often, we could certainly use another Berean in the trenches.
God Bless You, Brother.
Thank you for your comment as well. I think what threw me off was when I was told that Jesus does know the day and the hour when he clearly stated he didn't. I asked where in scripture does it say he knows and got thrown to links from other websites and channels to watch on the teachings of this theory but nothing from the Bible itself. Thank you for speaking truth brother God bless!
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ReplyDeleteSister...that comment was OUTSTANDING and EXCELLENT.
I never saw that in 1 Cor.13, but you brought it to the light of day, Sister Sunshine.
Well Done !!!
Thank You and God Bless You and all you love.
I wonder why God would drag the bride through the mud right before thier wedding? Just curious
DeletePaul...Its not right before the wedding. Tracy, Shane and I are lovingly trying to say we will be here for lots more action. Easter 2020..
DeleteWe will be here if alive. Easter 2021 ..same
Easter 2022..same
Please check each of those dates as we pass them.
Paul - check out https://www.persecution.com and you will see that God's bride is being 'dragged through the mud' as we speak. It is dangerous to use human emotion to interpret God's plan for mankind. Ryan
DeleteI have read Revelation many times and after reading a book by Pastor Billy Crone called The Rapture:Don't be Deceived, I picked up on things I hadn't noticed before. From Revelation chapters 6-20, the Church is not mentioned but the Time of Jacob's Trouble aka The Tribulation is happening and since Jacob is Israel, the Gentiles left behind who are not saved are called "the inhabitants of the earth." His book explains in great detail the Pre Trib, Mid Trib, Pre Wrath and Post Trib doctrines. There are too many Scriptures on the Pre Trib Rapture for me to list here but those who don't believe it should read his book. I am going to read it again.
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