BREAKING: Broad Middle East War Imminent
In response to the assassination in Beirut of Hezbollah’s second-in-command, Fuad Shukr, who was chiefly responsible for the 1983 marine barracks bombing in the same city which killed 241 U.S. and 58 French military personnel (he was also said to be responsible for the missile attack that killed 12 children in the Golan Heights this past Saturday), and following the assassination in Tehran yesterday of Hamas’ billionaire political leader, Ismail Haniyeh, Iran and its proxies have raised the red flag of revenge and are threatening to launch a multi-pronged, largescale attack against Israel in the next 72 hours, probably following these former leaders’ funeral services.
Israel is supposedly at peak military and intelligence readiness for “full-scale war.” A dozen U.S. warships are positioning off the coast of Lebanon for defense operations. Unless something dramatically changes, it is quite likely that the climactic Israel-Iran faceoff to which events have been building for the better part of the last 45 years is upon us. It is also quite likely that Iran’s retaliatory attacks will involve six different nations in which reside Iranian and proxy forces loyal to the cause: Iran proper, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, and the pseudo-entity of Palestine.
Whether this spirals into a massive regional war depends heavily on how Iran responds. If it attacks in such a way that Israel can largely defend against it—as was the case during the April 13–14 attacks which closely followed the second Great American Solar Eclipse—then it is possible a major war can be avoided. If, however, many casualties result, Israel, already prepped for a ground invasion of southern Lebanon, will likely push forward.
Eyes on the sky.
This is an interesting development. I was just made aware of a prophecy in Obediah (look at verse 20) which seems to indicate that Israel will expand their borders into southern Lebanon before the Millennium (so likely before the Trib starts). Perhaps this is the start of that happening? Or the destruction of Elam?
ReplyDeleteWe won't know until things happen, but one thing is sure, God will not allow Israel to be destroyed as He promised that once His people returned from being scattered through the nations, they would never again cease being a nation. So Iran better look out, the God of Israel is against any attack they muster. It may still be hard in Israel (I pray for safety and protection for all the people!) But ultimately God's purposes will prevail.
Very interesting!!
DeleteWoozers! Is anyone else actually getting really excited with all that is going on as an indication of the rapture’s closeness? It is so close! It's actually going to occur and occur very soon! We see these astounding developments in Israel, the divine intervention by God on Trumps assassination attempt, the advance of globalism, the meteoric decline of America, etc.! I can hardly wait for what will be the surreal experience of what will take place in the blink of an eye...new bodies, flying and seeing Jesus literally face to face! See everyone soon and very soon.
ReplyDeleteWhy my rapture Spidey senses are tingling again: Israel believes that they are currently at MAXIMUM military and intelligence readiness for a full-scale war on the northern front; it is this preparation and belief that led them to move forward with the Shukr and Haniyeh assassinations. They also have assurances from the U.S. and 12 U.S. warships parked off the coast of Lebanon...
DeleteCan't think of many other such scenarios in which the rapture might occur suddenly and devastatingly throwing Israel off balance and into proverbial "labor."
There's something going on with a very strange smell in the air ... a smell that I don't think most of the world is aware of unless you're really paying attention. That said, if you close your eyes and take a long deep sniff, you will actually be able to smell it. However, you have to sniff in a certain way that it is long and protracted. Only then can you smell it. But it's better if your eyes are closed. You will really be able to pick up on it.
ReplyDeleteNow, do you smell it? I suspect that it is the smell of the Lebanon prophecy getting ready to occur. But the exciting part is that, within the end times biblical sequence of events, it appears that the Lebanon prophecy is connected to the Rapture.
BREAKING PROPHECY ALERT: IMPENDING WAR WITH LEBANON
https://endtimesdarknessdescending.wordpress.com/2024/06/24/breaking-prophecy-alert-impending-war-with-lebanon/
But here's the exciting part (as if this is not already exciting enough), once you smell the initial wiff of the Lebanon prophecy, you start to smell another stench. You may have noticed it lingering in the air all across the continental United States and much of the world. It is the stench of bears. In conjunction with what is taking place right now in the Middle East, we have had a major Rapture clue strike us from out of the clear blue sky ... .literally.
On the 24th of July, two nations that are connected to the symbol of a bear were intercepted by U.S. fighter jets off the coast of Alaska. This smell contorts the face in a grotesque configuration. Why? Because as we all know, Russia carries the symbol of a bear. But did you know that China's national emblem is that of a bear as well? It is the Panda bear. This smacks of the two bears that attacked the 42 Rapture mockers who were mocking Elisha over the earlier Rapture of Elijah in 2 Kings chapter 2. As we all know, the situation between the Russia/China alliance and America with NATO grows more intense by the day.
But wait, the stench doesn't fade off there either. There have been a significant slew of number 42 occurrences in July - reminding us of the 42 mockers after Elijah's disappearance. It is, to say the least, very notable in light of what is taking place in the Middle East.
THE BEAR RAPTURE PROPHECY 6: TWO BEARS APPROACH ALASKA FOR THE FIRST TIME- THE SECOND PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SURFACES
https://endtimesdarknessdescending.wordpress.com/2024/07/29/the-bear-rapture-prophecy-6-two-bears-approach-alaska-for-the-first-time-the-second-piece-of-the-puzzle-surfaces/
How is this for stench: K A M E L A SPELLS AMALEK!
DeletePoint taken. The problem is, it's spelled "KamAla". There's no 'e'. Just saying.
Deleteclose enough & it probably works IN HEBREW!
DeleteYeah, that one is pretty raunchy. Extra gas mask needed if you want to stay alive (the 666 Satan 2 special). Prophetic times are often the words these days, but now, its down to literally prophetic moments it would seem.
DeleteQuestion still stands if Israel indeed did kill Ismail Haniyeh. It could well be that Teharan needed a stick that could get the muslimworld behind them. And especialy the muslims in the westernworld.
ReplyDeleteEspecially if nukes are ready.
DeleteEconomic catastrophe today.
ReplyDeleteOver $2.9 trillion has been wiped out from major indices and stocks this morning due to growing fears of a global recession.
This is the worst day for stocks since March 16, 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic fears.
Per David Stockman "The public debt crosses the $35 trillion mark in the next few weeks. It will be accurate to say that you haven’t seen nothing yet. We will be at the $40 trillion debt mark sometime in 2026 and, according to CBO’s latest optimistic budget forecast, the debt will exceed $60 trillion by the early 2030s. Unfortunately, it is off to the races thereafter. Under the fiscal policies of the UniParty, which are fully embraced by both Trump and Harris, the public debt will reach $150 trillion and 175% of GDP by mid-century."
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DeleteThe US definitely needs a strict austerity program to decrease its public debt. While Northern European countries like The Netherlands and Germany often have episodes of strict austerity.
Japan: Nikkei 225 sees biggest daily drop since 'Black Monday' in 1987
ReplyDeleteSome sources suggesting Iran and company may attempt retaliation on the 9th of Av: source
ReplyDeleteWow, that's scary, considering how many tragedies Israel suffers on that date...
DeleteOn the other hand, losing the current Temple (ie the Church due to Rapture) that day would be appropriate too... I wouldn't object to a 9th of Av Rapture....
I pray for the protection of the people of Israel. I pray that God's perfect will be done.
AV 9 is WW1 & WW2 so is there a threepeat? And If WW2 ended with a nuke, will the next war begin that way? And Is that how Mystery Babylon is destroyed in one hour? Clearly Isaiah 47, Jeremiah 51 & Revelation are spot on re Daughter of Babylon or Sodom Mystery Babylon USA. Fire already fell on Sodom with a wife who loved the world looked back while her husband was "raptured."
DeleteIt remains a mystery to me how the last and the greatest of the babylonic religions, Islam, practiced by 1.6 billion muslims with a temple dedicated to the worship of satan standing where Gods temple once stood on the temple mount is not the obvious choice to everyone. That same religion has a religious city in the desert by the sea (Mecca) which fullfills all the requirements laid down in the bible about that mystery city but that is still not the obvious choice to Americans as the religious city of mystery babylon. instead it has to be USA somehow.
DeleteExciting Times, Brothers and Sisters ! The "Flood of Noach", The "BIRTH- Death, and Resurrection of MESSIAH YESHUA", and now the "THIRD world affecting Miracle of our CREATOR GOD" is upon us ! (red legs is preparing his 'explanation of what happens' to his followers...) PRAISE our Merciful LORD GOD that for this ERA, the Torah, Tanakh, and New Covenant Books have provided the resources that we have needed to understand AND prepare for what is to come ! GLORY BE TO THE GOD ALMIGHTY !!!
ReplyDeleteOh, no! Not the red flag of revenge! 🙄
ReplyDeleteThese people truly don't know Who they're messing with -- and for that reason He MAY show them mercy on the Day of Judgment, though it's doubtful -- but they're going to find out. The ancient, irrational, demonic hatred they harbor for Israel is quickly going to come to an end. And soon.
Bill Koenig reports: "Western intelligence sources told Sky News Arabia that they had evidence Iran plans to attack Israel on Tisha B’Av in response to the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, which begins on August 12 and ends on August 13, the site reported on Friday."
ReplyDeleteThe Israeli Air Force destroyed an airport in Syria.
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ReplyDeleteLooks like it's on like Donkey Kong.
ReplyDeleteUPDATED 3:10 PM EDT -- IDF ATTACKING LEBANON AND SYRIA!!!! "The Window is Now Open" - Breakout of Kinetic War Expected "Any moment TODAY"
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/the-window-is-now-open-breakout-of-kinetic-war-expected-any-moment-today
Don’t be surprised if not long from now, we find out Hal Turner was an Iranian mole.
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DeleteLooks like Israel isn't going to just sit around and wait for Iran to make her move.
DeleteYeah, I can't imagine Israel sitting on their hands for 10 days, waiting to serve as a punching bag.
DeleteToday, Friday, August 2, 2024 is day 300 since the attack of October 7, 2023.
ReplyDeleteThe religious political and militaristic system or Revelation that is described in the bible is islam. The last and the greatest of the babylonic religions. Erdogan of Turkey is the antichrist. Watch as he takes the lead over the next 2 months. Watch him for the 7 year agreement This fall. But it will not be a peace agreement as so many believe but instead probably a military alliance of 10 islamic nation states to oppose Israel. And do not be confused this fall when that 7 year agreement is reached and all the believers are still here not raptured. Our collective understanding of that has been wrong as well.
ReplyDeleteIf yo are referring to Mystery Babylon in Revelation (as it also connects to end time empires describes in Daniel) Islam is not the greatest economy of the end of days causing all the merchants of the world to weep at its destruction Rev 18 :17 "For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate." Moreover you need to understand (at a minimum) Jeremiah 50 & 51 as well as Isaiah 47 re "Daughter if Babylon" similarly described as in Rev 18 as the final nation (before antichrist) destroyed in one hour for its abomination & ungodly pride. In fact the USA fulfills 53 bible descriptions of Babylon in a brilliant book written by Richard Pearson available on the Prophecy USA site.
DeleteWhere does the bible say that mystery babylon has to be the greatest economy of the world? All it says is that merchants were getting rich off her goods (possibly oil of Saudi Arabia) and that they lamented the destruction of that region.
DeleteMecca which is found in the desert by the sea in Saudi Arabia has 1.6 billion people that pray to it everyday. They affirm that God has no Son. He does not beget nor was he begotten. The staggeringly large religion (the largest Babylonic religion in history both in the number of adherents as well as geographic scope) is Antichristian to its core.
40 Miles from Mecca is the red sea The main shipping hub to europe for all the oil coming from saudi arabia as well as the goods that flow to the wealthy in Saudi Arabia. Not hard to imagine the merchants of the earth watching the plumes of smoke rise from its ruin at all.
Interestingly enough Islamic expectations are that mecca and medina will be destroyed during the last days. They say that the flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib (Medina) is in ruins. So the satanic religion believes that their holy cities will be destroyed during the time of their mahdi. Where did they get such an idea? I think Satan understand scriptures even better than we do is how.
America has a ton of problems right now. But there are also a ton of believers here now as well. Saudi Arabia on the other hand is openly defiant of the God of Israel. Where as we remain Israel's sole supporter currently. I am just not seeing 1.6 billion muslims praying to Satan through the persona of Allah as not being vile to God and what he ultimately comes back to judge. As messed up as places like NY city have become they do not behead Christians just for being there. But they do do that in mecca. Just sayin...
Please, Erdogan is NOT the Antichrist. There is not real way to figure who it is until he goes into that temple at least. The Jews await a JEWISH figure, not a Muslim. Turkey will help in the invasion of Russia during Gog Magog. The AntiMessiah PROTECTS Israel temporarily (maybe even taking some of the credit from God in the invaders' destruction). So, give it a rest.
Delete"The military political religious entity that beheads jews and christians becomes Islam. The religious military system that tries to over run Israel and set up a government there becomes Islam. The system that demands worship becomes Islam." Oh, please.
The Noahide system is the better candidate. Something right under our noses. While everyone distracts with Islam, this menace is slowly rising. Islam is simply a cannon-fodder made by Satan to be used in the end. At the end of the Gog Magog war, Islam will be back-water voodoo cult, probably only in far away villages, never to rise again. Islam has no control over money, credit or any Western nation the way that Israel does. Edom (the western nations) must be nullified if their Moschiach is to rule the world from Jerusalem. Hence the program to get USA and Russia to go to war and destroy each other. The Muslims are being used and set up!
As far as your theory of the end time system being Islam (?), you have Artificial Intelligence all over Revelations and Daniel in some verses. It probably will be an AI system that takes over after the AntiMessiah's death. It is an IMAGE of him that is given 'life'. Whatever it is and will be, it has the power to know who does and does not take its mark, and will kill accordingly.
have you ever run across the interesting fact that from the time Nebuchadnezzar conquered Jerusalem taking the whole city captive in 598bc there by stopping the sacrifice until the Dome of the rock was set up in 691/692AD was 1290 years? adding 1335 years to that is when Daniel was told by the angel that he would be resurrected. In the last verse of Daniel, which is a resurrection verse, Daniel is bluntly told he would arise to receive his inheritance at the end of THE days {1290 and 1335} "blessed is he that comes to the 1335th day" So with the construction of the abomination of the dome of the rock in 691/692 add 1335 years and you come to 2027/2028.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that both the first and second appearance of the messiah was given to the year (The messiah was to appear after 69 weeks from the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. And that is what happened but there was a little riddle involved that 1 day actually equaled 1 year. So instead of 69 weeks (483 days) it was actually 483 years after Artaxerxes decree to Ezra to restore Jerusalem in 457bc when the messiah appeared.
The apparent fact that the dome of the rock is the abomination that is mentioned in the last verse of the book of Daniel has been overlooked by most because we have operated under the assumption that there is only one fulfillment of the abomination by the antichrist when there are in fact multiple pattern fulfillments that have or will have happened soon. How could a temple dedicated to the worship of Satan through the personification of Allah where God's temple once stood and will stand again not be viewed by God as an abomination?
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I think you're in the wrong forum. It's Pre-Trib rapture! Not a salvation issue so no reason to argue, but this is a Pre Tribe forum.
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DeleteI think we are all going to have to come to grips with what actually happens vs what we have been told/expect/desire to happen. In the next couple years. We all will get there one way or another.
Delete"TOLD"? No many of us have studied for years & years intelligently pouring over the bible, reading, seeking and learning led by His Spirit. We have no time for muddled musings, confusion nor deception!
DeleteYes, I've looked into all different views of when the Rapture takes place and the Pre-trib has the best argument and the greatest evidence. After all, why was 2 Thessalonians even written? It was because the Christians there were worried they were in the Trib and had missed the Rapture. They wouldn't have worried if they were sure the Rapture was just around the corner - they would have rejoiced! Or how the Church is promised it will never be overcome, yet in the Trib, the saints WILL be overcome... there's just sooo much more. And, I suppose it's not worth arguing since, as Nan says it's not a salvation issue, but please do look into it more as you might find many reasons you weren't aware of that support the Pre-Trib view.
DeleteHowever, if that's not something you are interested in changing your mind on, you are still welcome here, just keep in mind that all those around you are pre-trib and the articles and discussions will reflect that view.
Thank you for your kind words.
DeleteJust wanted to chime in with Bob to note he's not alone in his theory. I couldn't find it suggested anywhere else, but for a few years I've been in agreement with his analysis of Daniel's 1290 and 1335 day-years and a 2026/2027-ish harpazo based on the earliest of multiple fulfillments or pattern fulfillments of the AOD, the blasphemy on Temple Mount. I think the only consistent interpretation of Daniel is that Daniel and the angels were only ever talking about years and didn't suddenly change the symbolism in Daniel 12 to days without explanation. This can result in a pretrib harpazo with a second coming in 33 or pre great trib (aka midtrib) with a 2030 finale, both the strongest candidate years for the coming of the King based on the 7,000 year theory (so 2,000 from the Ascension).
ReplyDeleteI believe we do not have any other reasonably solid interpretation of Daniel's day-years in Daniel 12. 1335 is otherwise out of nowhere. I find the theory of 45 days between Armageddon and the coronation or beginning of the Millenium to give time for a sheep and goats judgment or to set up the coming kingdom plausible but really unsupported speculation. Similarly, the idea of 1290 days being a half of the trib by including an interclary month makes sense, but then we have the problem of changing Daniel's day-years into days without support again.
I figure Revelation's 1260s must refer to actual days because there is no doubt that we must have a final seven years to fulfill the prophecy of Daniel 9 and because there is no in-text explanation or other reasons to consider John to mean day-years (although I do support the idea of an earlier pattern fulfillment utilizing day-years that amazingly end in 1948 and 1967 as described by Ellis Skolfield and others). This is all just a theory and though I think it strong I am not committed to it and continue to watch and study to show myself approved.
I'd like to mention another theory which can dovetail with or be independent of the above, which is far more speculative. For those of us who believe those feast days must be fulfilled at the end (that is probably all of us here, I imagine), and expecting those fullfillments at the second coming to be in rapid succession as with the first time (although I still hold to a belief of some likelihood that Yom Teruah may be fulfilled in a harpazo) , we could likely have a trib ending on Shemini Atzeret. I've been a strong proponent of both a 30 AD crucifixion and a 7,000 years of history timeline (including the Millenium), so I speculate that with a fall 2030 second coming concluding the trib on Shemini Atzeret, we might expect to see something significant happen involving Israel exactly seven years earlier. That day, to the date, was October 7, 2023. Of course we know the last seven begins with the covenant, and my most speculative theory, that the antichrist being indwelled by and (at times) synonymous with Satan or the end times kingdom, the covenant being confirmed may be the assertion from Psalm 83:4 “Come, let us erase them as a nation; may the name of Israel be remembered no more.”) I do hold to a 1948 fulfillment of Psalm 83.
Finally, I will say that despite the foregoing lately I have been cooling off on the exact 7,000 year historical timeline of this earth and the return of the King after exactly 2,000 years (irrespective of Hosea's two day prophecy or Peter's day as a 1,000 years scripture), as I am not convinced that the Bible firmly supports the concept or the need for exactitude to that degree (i.e., more or less 2,000 years would be sufficient fulfillment).
These are just the thoughts I've been rolling around in my head. I would appreciate any feedback. I am not any authority on any of this, I don't mean to offend anyone with my opinions and certainly don't want to bicker with another member of the Body about something that I don't believe to be an essential salvation issue.
Interesting thoughts. I've been listening to stuff about the Dead Sea Scrolls lately and their calendar points to a 2026-2075 "final" chunk of the Age of Grace (so while the Rapture is not included in the calculations, they'd say that the Trib can't start until Spring of 2026 at the ealiest). It's been Interesting to read/listen about. But they also were expecting the Cross in 32AD, which might be a year or 2 off, so we could conclude that the Trib could start as early as this year. Either way, the end of this Age is definitely coming soon! This year, perhaps, or next year...It would be very interesting indeed if you are right about the 1335 years, and at the same time the Essenes were right and thus 2026 is a very important year.
DeleteI would only disagree with your one point of having cooled on the exact 7000 year time line. I do not find it very likely that the day (read year) that Daniel was told he would be resurrected just coincidentally lands somewhere in the middlish of the last 7 years of the 2nd millennial day (reckoned from the crucifixion date of ad 30). It just seems to on the nose for me to dismiss. But you do have to entertain other ideas about exactly when the resurrection is relative to the last 7 years than is commonly held by western Christians.
DeleteOn another note I do not know why there is so few that take the gravity of the last verse of Daniel seriously. "You will arise to receive your inheritance at the end of THE DAYS" with the previous verse stating exactly what those days are. It is literally an itinerary for the resurrection that can really only mean 1290/1335 years or 1290/1335 days. But once you have the dome of the rock being set up right on schedule then there really is only one conclusion imho. That conclusion has to be that 1335 YEARS latter Daniel will be resurrected. And right on schedule the world is erupting into wars and rumors of war.
On the other hand though if you look at the 70 week prophecy by comparison the messiah was prophesied to appear 69 weeks after the decree to restore Jerusalem "Until the appearing of the Messiah." Even though they (the Jews) had a bluntly stated itinerary of the first coming to the day (year) they never took it seriously. Just like we have the itinerary of the second coming 1290 and 1335 years but like wise seems like nobody actually takes it seriously. Every single Christian knows the verse "No man knows the day or the hour" and are not afraid to quote it. But have you ever in all your days had a christian reply when queried about the timing of the end of the age and the rapture and ressurection that Daniel would be resurrected at the end of the days 1290 and 1335? Seems like it should be THE standard answer given by Christians concerning the timing of the resurrection.
Regardless of what you believe about bible prophecy interpretation it will be found in the end that Daniel will "Arise to receive his inheritance at the end of the days" because that is just verbatim what is said.
Another thought I had was that perhaps why so many western Christians dismiss the 1290/1335 years out of hand is because the dome of the rock becomes the central abomination of Daniel 12 that is SET UP (not to be confused with the abomination that the antichrist performs as an action latter on) which then elevates the last and the greatest of the babylonic religions, Islam to the forefront. The main antagonistic player of revelation becomes Islam. The military political religious entity that beheads jews and christians becomes Islam. The religious military system that tries to over run Israel and set up a government there becomes Islam. The system that demands worship becomes Islam. The antichrist does not have to create a system and a religion denying the Father and the Son, but rather all he has to do is fulfill the religious political system that is already there as their Mahdi flanked by the return of the Islamic prophet Jesus who they await and refer to as Isa. Few are aware of it but Islam has an eschatology that is basically the same as Christian eschatology except everything is inverted. They are waiting for the exact same thing we are but in reverse.
Instead of creating a western centric version of prophecy with American Presidents or European prime ministers being the antichrist you have turn your head east and consider the possibility that maybe God views the worship of Satan through the Babylonic religion of Islam practiced by 1.6 billion people as something that needs judged at the end of the age. Upon accepting that, the rapidly accelerating events in the middle east take on a new urgency and character. But to do that you would have to let go of Amero centrism and Eurocentrism and accept that maybe the USA is not the main player in the last great game.
I did go back and read the last verses of Daniel. I can see how you reach your conclusion - 2026 is indeed 1335 years from (according to Wikipedia) the completion year of the Dome of the Rock. But I have a problem with the fact that Daniel would have to be resurrected at that point. If this was just a normal situation, the Old Testament saints should be resurrected at the End of the Trib - and we can't fit 7 years in between then and now. If you want to say that Daniel is one of the 2 witnesses, then it is possible he himself could be resurrected (along with Elijah, I guess) at the start of the Trib I haven't seen Daniel as a candidate for one of the witnesses brought up before. But I won't discount this whole idea. If we are still here by 2026, I'll be very interested in that year! Having said all that, what would be special about 1290 years? Nothing happened then...
Deleteis there any indication anywhere in the bible that old testament saints are resurrected at a different time than new? This would be news to me if there is such passages in scripture.
Deleteregarding the 1290 years-"Nebuchadnezzar conquered Jerusalem taking the whole city captive in 598bc there by stopping the sacrifice until the Dome of the rock was set up in 691/692AD was 1290 years"
So the 1290 years have already completed From the time the temple sacrifice was stopped until the abomination was set up will be 1290 years. Blessed is he who waits and comes to the 1335th day (year) which is circa 2027/2028
Regarding your statement "And we can't fit 7 years in between then and now" for the completion of the 1335the years circa 2027/28 You are correct in that statement. We may have no choice but to alter our thinking a bit over the next few years. I know I had to to accept the math of Daniel 12.
Long story short I am of the opinion, and this is just my opinion that, Erdogan of Turkey is about to unite the islamic world in a military alliance against Israel for 7 years. My understanding is that that will happen this fall.
Thank you for the answer regarding 1290 years then 1335 year. I was thinking it was referring to sometime in the 1980s and was confused, but I see what you are doing with that now.
DeleteAs for the Old Testament saints, there's no specific verse that I'm aware of for their Resurrection date. But they aren't part of the church, so typically aren't lumped there. And I think they should not be lumped with the unbelievers at the end of the Mill period, so most often they get placed with the Trib saints, since the Bible says they get resurrected at the end of the Trib.
I believe that we (christians) are grafted into believing Israel of both old and new testament epochs. Contrary to nature, our state (as believing gentiles) is to become partakers of the promises of God as the singular people of God sharing Israel's eternal promises. This is what Paul was referring to. Although we come from different epochs we are grafted together to make a singular whole for eternity.
DeleteYou stated of the believing old testament saints "they aren't part of the church" When in fact according to Paul we have been grafted into and have become part of them. Ergo the reason the bible never speaks of an old testment saint resurrection and a seperate new testament saint resurrection is because it is understood that they are one and the same.
Ah, that's a Replacement Theology view, usually, which again, would not be one those on this forum hold. While, yes, we agree that we are "grafted in" and of course all believing Jews become part of the Church, we believe that God also has a separate plan for the currently unbelieving Jews. We believe that the main purpose of the Trib is to convert Israel into believers and they will Trust Jesus by the end of the 7 years. They, along with all others who believe in Jesus during the Trib are those "sheep" (at the Sherp and Goats Judgement) who then populate the Millennium Kingdom (and fulfill all the promises for the Jewish nation that are not for the Church - like particular national borders).
DeleteFeel free to read past articles or do your own research into the problems with Replacement Theology and who exactly will be in the Millennium Kingdom (I honestly have no idea who post-Trib believers think they can be since you only have believers and unbelievers at the end, and if all believers get Raptured and Glorified and unbelievers can't be rewarded by entering into God's Rest...who does that leave?) Happy hunting on your research into these issues!
I agree with you on all your points about The ethnic jews still having a national future during the millenium as well as the next few years. I am not a replacement theologist. My previous post was that we are grafted in to a single body of god for eternity to come. Not as a replacement for the earthly promises that have yet to transpire for the nation state of israel during the last 7 years as well as the millenium. After that in the new heaven and new earth there is simply one people of God is my view. but first of course the jews have to go through the meat grinder followed by the millenium reign.
DeleteGood to know! Thanks for responding!
DeleteIf you read Matthew 24 slowly, the very words of Jesus, and if you were to be honest with yourself, you come to realize that there are multiple ways to interpret the timeline. Yes, only one of them is inevitable, but there is enough latitude to the language to allow for several views in the meantime.
ReplyDelete"Those days" are cut short for the elect, but probably not for the Jews. The Fig Tree generation will see all "these things," but perhaps not the events "immediately AFTER the distress of those days." And so on.
Anyway, I'm not here to debate anyone about anything. I am not a prophet. And I grow tired of hearing everyone put each other down regarding knowledge that none of us can truly claim ownership of.
But I have heard an interesting suggestion recently that perhaps the Fig Tree generation's years will end with the midpoint of the Tribulation. Theoretically, the same woman that births the child in Revelation 12 will then flee to the wilderness to be protected through the worst of the Great Tribulation, the second half of the 7-year trib. And Matthew 24, in just one paragraph, also references not only the Abomination of Desolation at the midpoint, but also a great flight to the mountains, pregnant mothers, and the beginning of great distress.
This would also mesh well with the idea that the dragon (AntiChrist) comes upon the scene at the beginning of the 7 years, and is wholly watching for the birth of the child by the midpoint, with world power at his right hand.
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So let me throw out some dates, just for fun:
ReplyDeleteEvery Fig Tree model that I know of has a start date of 1948-1950. I've considered a 1950 date, at the latest, but can't really see a decent argument for anything much later. Sure, it's possible, but it's a lot less remarkable.
Therefore, if we were to follow this new line of thinking, and the 70-80 year conceptual argument for the length of a generation, we would be looking at a 2030 date for the mid-trib, at the very latest.
Can we move that date forward at all? Possibly.
Romans 11:25 makes it clear that blindness, in part, is come upon Israel until the fulness of the gentiles be come in. The blindness is a direct result of being in the dark regarding the Light of the World . . . Jesus. And the gentiles will meet their fullest when Israel regains its sight with the recognition of our Lord as savior and protector at the midpoint flight. At that point, the Jewish people become the priority again.
So, take a look at the Hebrew concordance for the Gregorian and Hebrew years upcoming:
2025 “Altar”
2026 “To kill, slay”
2027 “A slaughter”
2028 “A slaughter"
2029 “To conceive, become pregnant” [a Revelation 12 flight?]
2030 “Pregnant”
5785 (starts Fall 2024) “a skin”
5786 (starts Fall 2025) “to make blind, blind”
5787 (starts Fall 2026) “blind”
5788 (starts Fall 2027) “blindness"
5789 (starts Fall 2028) “to lend aid, come to help” [a Revelation 12 flight?]
5790 (starts Fall 2029) “perhaps to help”
5791 (starts Fall 2030) “to be bent or crooked”
Notice that the Fall of 2028 marks the end of wholesale first-half tribulation slaughter and blindness, and the beginning of divine recognition, aid, and pregnancy. And if we stick to a PreTrib viewpoint, we're then looking at a rapture 3.5 years before the fall of 2028. Somewhere within the next 12 months, generally speaking. (Before mid 2025.)
Assuming a 30 or 31 AD crucifixion, because those are likely the only two years that support a Wednesday crucifixion and 3 days and nights in the ground, a midpoint after the Fall of 2028 would allow for the time of the elect to be shortened, because we're out of here before we reach the 2,000 year mark post-crucifixion. But it also allows Tribulation Saints and Jews to be raised on the beginning of Hosea's "3rd day," because the end of the Great Tribulation, just past the 2,000 year mark, will conclude after 2030 or 2031.
And, coincidentally, if you put the Gregorian years into the Greek concordance for the New Testament believers in Christ, you get:
2025 “I spread on, anoint”
2026 “I build upon (above) a foundation”
2027 “I force forward, run (a ship) aground”
2028 “I name, impose a name on; pass: am named”
2029 “I am an eyewitness of, behold, look upon”
2030 “An eyewitness, spectator, looker-on”
It certainly looks possible that the only thing the Church is doing after 2028 is recognizing our Redeemer and playing eyewitness to the Great Tribulation.
Keep in mind that this is all conjecture and fun. I know that we can all be argumentative at times, but let's just keep our eyes on the big picture and the Gospel. Fighting about who the AC is, or when the rapture is, or how the nuclear wars will play out, will not build a unified family of believers. Absent any real bearing on our daily lives, it's just pride on display.
(All I can think to say is that Jesus must really love us.)
Jeremy
I did not mean anything bad....as I said...not a salvation issue.
ReplyDeleteI do however come to this site for discussion, encouragement, and information from like-minded people which has always been Pre Trib. I do not go to mid trib sites or post trib sites etc. as that is not what I believe. ( I have studied the different views through the years) I certainly would not go to one of those sites and post a differing opinion and try to change minds or just throw a monkey wrench into their discussion. Therefore, I think the same applies here.
If the site is changing I can stop following as well.
I love everyone....no matter the view, but as I said ... I come for discussion of the Pre trib rapture.
Nan,
DeleteI didn't have the opportunity to respond earlier, but just for your benefit, I wanted you to know that I wasn't aiming my comments at you, or anybody else, in particular. I welcome the occasional oddball remarks and personalities here.
Two of the larger problems I see in the end-times views of the Church, today, are: the confusion between facts and interpretations, and the refusal to stand defiantly on those truths once identified.
There are closed-minded people everywhere you turn, but I try very hard to listen and leave room for malleable and fluid prophetic interpretations. Real learning isn't just the acquisition of knowledge, but the implementation and application of variables and specifics.
As a quick aside, in my former life, I was a captain at an airline for a couple of decades, and I would often fly with a new copilot and flight attendants every week or every day. Sometimes even more often. It's a very "plug-and-play" industry for crews, where they try to standardize the procedures in order to be able to move individuals around and fill gaps. And it's a very hard industry to grow personal relationships in but, as a captain, you quickly gain the ability to recognize a great crewmember within the first hour or two. You could almost always tell what your entire trip would look like based on the humility of the new people. A humble person who lacks experience, knowledge, or wisdom will be able to listen and learn. And even a person who already has the requisite experience, knowledge, and wisdom will be able to learn more and offer more from their seat, as long as they have the right attitude and humility. We can all learn something from everybody . . . unless you're one of those people who has purposely or mistakenly mischaracterized their own interpretation as a fact. And that happens on this site, as well as all others.
Now if I am able to establish something as a solid fact, verifiable from the outside, then it becomes a duty to stand firm on that for everyone's sake. Just as I did, and still do, on the "vaccines" not too long ago. (Just an example. Let's not go there!) And I am absolutely okay with the insults and hatred of those who don't understand. I know what I know. But I also know what I don't know, and that is honestly the most interesting part of these last few years at Unsealed!
I hope that you'll choose to stay in the forum, and at the same time allow room for discussion with those who bring different views. Wisdom can be found in the strangest places, but it takes a truly wise person to seek it out and recognize it in the flotsam and jetsam. Besides, and let's be honest, right before the emotions turn it into an argument, it's the debate part that's often most educational AND hopeful.
I'm thankful for all of you, and the hope that you each offer . . . even when you're wrong, and especially when you're right. LOL
Jeremy
I hope that you recognize, in my writing, that I am also trying to be humble. I have been wrong about so many things in my life, and those instances have helped me to grow as well. You've heard it said that we often stand on the shoulders of giants; those who've come before us. Well, when I'm right about something, it's often because I've stood on the piles of wrongs. Just like everybody else.
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Thank you Jeremy....noted
ReplyDelete“ Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Delete18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18
I hope that you don't think that I was trying to sow division or deception. If so, I apologize for my part in painting that picture.
DeleteFor the record, I agree wholeheartedly with Nan's PreTrib perspective, and I understand how difficult it is to speak to a brother or sister about an issue when only a percentage of what you mean to say will ever be fully understood or construed. Our meaning is so often twisted when we try to see the small subtleties of texting, typing, and even sometimes speaking. And I know that I also sometimes type too long a message in an effort to preempt and prevent any misconceptions.
Anyway, I hope I didn't offend anyone while I was trying to write about not offending anyone. lol
Jeremy
Well, here we go for those who haven't seen yet. Could this be the lead-in moments to the Rapture?
ReplyDeleteUPDATED 2:22 PM EDT: F-16 VIDEO - FLYING OVER ODESSA UKRAINE; ARMED FORCES UKRAINE STRIKE LUHANSK, DONETSK, BELGOROD, - ALL CIVILIAN AREAS!
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/breaking-news-f-16-photographed-flying-over-odessa-ukraine-armed-forces-ukraine-strike-luhansk-donetsk-belgorod-all-civilian-areas
LIVE UPDATES IN PROGRESS, ISRAEL-IRAN CONFLICT -- FLASH: Russia to Enter Middle East War to Protect Iran if needed
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/flash-russia-to-enter-middle-east-war-to-protect-iran-if-needed
Looks like Russia is threatening involvement over that second link above. Looks like it really is getting ready to hit the fan. Or maybe it will, by God's providence, be walked back again from getting too serious if it isn't quite yet time.
Another BEAR showing up? In the financial markets?
DeleteSome have suggested or wondered if the bear of the financial markets could be of prophetic significance as part of the repeating pattern prophecy of 2 Kings 2. I personally do not think so although it is an interesting suggestion. The two bears that attacked in 2 Kings 2 were of a physical mauling, not a financial one. I think the Russia/China parallel would more closely fit the pattern. Not only that but you would have three bears instead of just the two.
Delete3 bears are only in Goldilocks. A Goldilocks economy has steady economic growth, preventing a recession, but not so much growth that inflation rises by a great deal. A Goldilocks state is ideal for investing because stocks perform well as companies grow and generate positive earnings growth. However, the bubble party is over when the underlying currency is worthless due to debt & the BRICS nations (2 are bears) are at your door along with your own bear especially since your "bull" resembles the golden calf.
DeleteMonday: Japanese, South Korean, and Taiwanese markets all in free fall. Crypto BTC and ETH down 10% and 20%, respectively. $150-200 billion crypto wiped out in hours.
ReplyDeleteWestern futures not looking good as war looms in the Middle East. Put your hope in JESUS.
It's interesting that all of this is transpiring as mid-summer hits. There is a hint of pieces fitting within the calendar that I find interesting leading up to mid-September. (A high watch time by my studies). If war breaks out between Iran and Israel, will Russia come to the aid of their BRICS partner? Watching events closely.
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DeleteInteresting too how Hurricane Debby made landfall on the first of Av.
DeleteTimes of Israel reports: Iranian officials quoted by The New York Times say Russia has begun delivering advanced air defense and radar equipment to Iran, after officials in Tehran asked the Kremlin for the arms. The report comes as Iranian state media report that the country’s new President Masoud Pezeshkian told a visiting senior ally of Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin that Tehran is determined to expand relations with its “strategic partner Russia.” “Russia is among the countries that have stood by the Iranian nation during difficult times,” Pezeshkian told Sergei Shoigu, the secretary of Russia’s security council, in a meeting, Iranian state media report.
DeleteIran can import all of the advanced AD equipment they want -- it's a waste of time against the IDF and the Adir. The Israeli version of the F-35 can easily operate to 20 miles of S-400 SAMs and take them out with ARM/SEAD munitions from much further away.
DeleteIsrael will win this fight by the Grace of G-D. He alone is her true defender. It is He who will win the day for Israel. I don't think the restrainer will be here to support and defend her. We will be Home. The Spirit-dwelt Church in the US and UK that support and defend her militarily will be with the rest of the saints dressed in fine linen in the presence of the LORD Himself. We may be on the doorstep of going Home.
Stay awake! Don't be like the foolish virgins who failed to keep their lamps trimmed and filled. Be ready when our redeemer comes! Be ready when the skies are rolled back and the heavens opened!
Keep His Word and do not deny His Name,
PR
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ReplyDeleteJust as the US supports their key allie Israel, Russia has promised to help Iran in case of an "devastating" attack by Israel on Iran. Pastor Phillip Barnett prophesied that Russia would send an army against Israel (probably together with Iranaian forces) but Israel would destroy them with a nuclear weapon before they get near, in Northern Iraq. Phillip Barnett says we would see that just before the rapture. Then follows the rapture and WW3 would brake it...and the unfolding of the seals in Revelation ch. 6. It might happen very soon looking at the tension in the Middle East. Intereringly there is a short route for the Russian army through the small countries Georgia and Armenia they could easily and quickly send a large army unit to support Iran
ReplyDeleteAbel, Do you have a URL for that message from Ps Barnett? (About Israeli use of nuclear weapons before the harpazo). That is new to me as I've watched my share of his messages. Very interesting! Part of the Azovmena Prophecy is that WW3 goes nuclear on 11/11 and that the Rapture takes place a month or so beforehand.
DeleteI cannot help but wonder if we are seeing (Ezekiel 38) unfold before our eyes. (Ezekiel 36-48) certainly do present as having a potential linear temporal progression.
My next high watch day is September 18, 2024.
Dear pastor Rich. Check e.g. this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXIJ5QftdNM from 27:21 and forward, where Phillip does say there will be a nuclear war in the Middle East BEFORE the rapture. In the past year I've watched various video's of Phillip Barnett and many watchmen copy it and put in in their channel. But I cann't find the exact video where he said that Israel would destroy a Russian army in Northern Iraq before the rapture, but it's in one of his videos.
DeleteThank you, Abel!
DeleteAh! That answered my question. Ps Barnett is building a picture based upon Scripture and not the Azovmena Prophecy when speaking about nuclear war in the ME. Thanks for the URL, it helped answer my question.
DeletePlease give our love to your wife. Lifting you, the school and children in prayer!
PR
Thank you pastor Rich, you are very kind. I agree that Ps. Barnett is building much of his pre-rapture teaching based on his understanding of Bible prophesy and less on his Azovmena revelation. Except that he insists that there will be a second evacution of Kiev before the rapture. There will be two evacuations and we've only seen the first (2 years ago).
DeleteTo both PR and Abel,
DeleteIf Mr. Barnett is building an assumed framework around his actual vision, what do you think of it all, as a whole?
In other words, how much credence do you give the Azovmena Prophecy when it comes to prophetic foreknowledge?
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
DeleteSorry for the late answer but work and family has pulled me away lately. Your question is the same question that I would ask. What credence do I give the Azovmena Prophecy?
If to take the vision(s) on faith we may be able to agree that there has been one (1) evacuation of Kyiv because of a Russian invasion. That part has come true. The rest of it? I look at it with a watchful eye but with certain reservations. Honestly, I'm the same way when it comes to my personal studies and research in model building.
To unpack an American launch of ICBMs against Eastern Ukraine pre-emptively requires a lot of other things happen first. The United States recently curtailed weapons shipments to Ukraine. What changes that POTUS orders a strike on Ukraine?
Russia has barely been able to make headway even when the US holds back weapons shipments. How then, is Russia able to take up so much territory that a nuclear strike is called for? Ukraine has taken about 1,000 sq/km these past two weeks. Russia? Not so much. It's a lot to digest but if one part of this is true then I have to wonder if the rest is true as well.
I'm considering it all and keeping an open mind.
Personally I give Ps. Barnett my full credence with respect to his "Azovmena" prophecy. He does appear to build some framework of events around his interpretation of the Ezek.38 war and Ps.83 but he also says that's his opinion so that's not prophesy. But he appears to be more genuine than those who come with frequent prophecies of all sorts especialy blessings. Mr. Barnett got his prophetic message from a dream which was repeated twice. God has also spoken to me in dreams, many times, so I know it works like that. This Azovmena (1 and 2) is his only prophetic message and it only relates to the time just before the rapture and what follows afterwards, the tribulation. Apart from that he was a missionairy and evangelist from his youth who won many for Christ. He said he always believed we should just read the Bible and live by faith and not follow prophets, until God gave him this vision, and mainly to warn people to flee from Eastern Ukraine where he was working at that time.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
ReplyDeleteAfter listening to him many times, he seems genuine enough. I don't really have time to say more right now, but some of what he says does seem to stand out more as authentic. Just for example, his statement that Chicago, Milwaukee, and Detroit would be the first hit . . . which is exactly what you would expect from weapons arriving over the north pole. Obviously, there's a lot more to consider on the macro scale, I just tend to shy away from dreams and visions without good credentials.
Anyway, thanks for you interpretation.
Jeremy
The Rapture timing is, of course, connected to the events happening in Israel. This in turn is connected to America.
ReplyDeleteCorey (ENDTIMES: DARKNESS DESCENDING blog) has written extensively on the Bear Rapture Prophecy in 2 Kings but in my recent studies I saw the possibility of the RAPTURE connected to America, the Daughter of Babylon, being attacked by two nations represented by the bear—Russia and China--IN DANIEL 7.
Of course, I have an article on this which (because it is my last 'warning' article) includes an updated listing of all the Dominoes prophesied to fall leading to the Harpazo!
Babylon and The Last Call!
Jeremiah 51:49 "As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth." The Daughter of Babylon USA appears to be on track to betray Israel as noted in Ezekiel when "ALL nations come against Israel." Kamala Harris campaigning in Michigan was asked by the Muslim constituents if she would boycott arms to Israel & she responded that she would "consider it," Betrayal is on the horizon sooner than later.
ReplyDeleteThis is probably an easy answer but I suddenly was unsure.
ReplyDeleteI heard Jack Hibbs say that some people believe that Enoch could be one of the two witnesses because he was raptured and it's appointed once to man to die.
So when we are raptured "not all will sleep" .....are we not appointed once to die? Did Jesus' death on the cross cover our death?
The verse "we are all appointed to die once" is NOT a hard a strict rule. Lazarus, for example, died twice. As did the many other physically resurrected in the Bible. Also, everyone Raptured will not die at all! So I don't hold to the reasoning of "Enoch hasn't died yet so needs to in the future" as a reason for him to be one of the 2 Witnesses. But, there's also no reason he couldn't be either. We just aren't given enough info yo be sure who they'll be. But feel free to speculate!
DeleteOh, I see this was already answered below. Oh well :-)
DeleteI appreciate everyone's replies!! Thank you so much!
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Bueler?
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Hi Nan,
Deleteyeah some believe Enoch will be one of the two witnesses based on Heb 9:27 but while this is the 'general' rule there are exceptions. For example, we which are alive when the Lord returns will not see death but will be instantly transformed into His image. The Bible is clear that for those alive at that time they will NOT see death (1 Thes 4:17, 1 Cor 15:51). And as well as those that will not see death when Jesus returns, there are some that have died more than once! ie Lazarus, Jairus daughter etc. So it is not a hard and fast rule that 'everyone' has to die 'once'.
So instead of making Enoch one of the two witnesses, I think it is better to see him as a type of those that are caught up and taken to be with the Lord, without seeing death, BEFORE God's judgement falls upon this earth.
Hope this helps : )
Nan,
DeleteI guess I prefer to look at it more spiritually. When it talks of being appointed to die once, to me it's saying that each individual will have exactly one opportunity to make that eternal choice. You may get an extra shot at temporal life, of course, just like those folks who reveal their personal after-death experiences in the hospital and such, but, ultimately, we only get one determining moment to choose our destination. The death of the body is a momentary "sleep" which most, but not all, will get to experience. But the death of the old reality, and the birth of a new reality, will be true for all, and only once.
Jeremy
The death and rebirth of the soul, if you will. And with the help of Jesus Christ, perhaps we won't have to "sleep" before we make that choice.
DeleteJeremy
Hebrews 9:27 (NKJV): "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment."
DeleteIt’s important to understand this verse in context. The whole context of Hebrews 9 is about Christ offering Himself for sins once and for all eternity. It is fascinating how the Bible can be easily turned from being Christ-centric to man-centric, and when this happens, strange theories appear. But indeed, the truth is in Jesus, and when we see Him in the Scriptures, only then shall we know the truth.
Hebrews 9:27 doesn’t say that every human being must die; rather, the key word "appointed" makes all the difference. That appointment of death and judgment has been met on the cross by Christ Himself. Paul explains the meaning of this in his second letter to the Corinthians: "For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died" (2 Cor 5:14). A bold statement, isn’t it?
Wow Paul... That was a breath of fresh air in these comment threads... ;)
DeleteYes. We as believers in Christ are dead already, and our judgment decided and paid for.
Something I will add for thought along these lines also is that:
For those who complain about the Rapture cheating the death requirement from this verse, they fall into this interpretation error trap also.
The rapture is a special form of Resurrection. We have the resurrection of the dead in Christ first, then the resurrection of the living (Rapture) in Christ second, in order.
Flesh will never see or experience heaven, thus the Glorification into the new and sinless body.
With the rapture, you can look at it in two different ways which are both basically true and come to the same conclusion.
- You are dead in Christ and are resurrected as a new and whole being
- Your flesh dies at the Rapture and you are changed so fast that death has no sting.
The end result is the same no matter how you look at it, and both satisfy the appointment requirement from the scripture, because your death and judgment was already satisfied before these events.
“ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” Galatians 2:20
DeleteThank you! Makes total sense! Sometimes I hear something like that and it just hits me like.....hmmm I never thought of that.... even though I've studied for years!
ReplyDeleteI suspect that including Enoch as a Witness is the simple route. He didn't die. He was of great value to God as he walked with Him. So he was rewarded with relief from this life.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I am drawn to the transfiguration and the sight of Moses and Elijah. I don't think Enoch has the same relevance to the Jews, for whom the Tribulation is intended. But Moses and Elijah represent the Law and the Prophets, to the Jews, so it makes more sense to me personally.
“That he not see death” is a phrase that has always fascinated me. It may have two implications. One, that he not die as men do. The other that he not suffer the grief of seeing catastrophes unspeakable. When I read about ‘a thousand will fall at your side’ I pray that’s for the sturdier stock destined for a different purpose. I am tender and I am old, and I pray for His compassion to not see death on a grand scale.
ReplyDeleteAnother thought about Enoch is that he withdrew from society more and more as he grew older and wiser. Through his eyes, he saw dead men walking. Sound familiar?
ReplyDeleteWhere do you get this? Is this found in the Dead Sea scrolls or something? Or a Bible verse? Because I've never heard that.
DeleteSherrill, I wish I could remember, but that was something I read somewhere years ago. Seems likely it was from the apocryphal account of Enoch, which was discovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls in parts and pieces. I gave some time trying to find it, but couldn't do it with a reasonable amount of effort. Why do we remember certain things and not others? As an introvert, I may have related to his retreat. I know the whole subject of those writings is entertained with much debate.
ReplyDeleteThanks for trying!
DeleteWhen you read through the chapters of 1 Enoch you see this very thing played out in the way only his family is able to call out to him for guidance, and in the fact that he is away from humanity a LOT in the events recorded, and the distain for the gross evil that has taken hold of the world of their time by way of the Watchers.
DeleteYou don't really need a declarative statement when it is implied all over the book by context. :)
This is of course by way of 1 Enoch as a whole, not a Bible reference.
Israel War Timing: Looking back from the vantage point of the 4 blood moons tetrads ending in 2015 falling on Bible Feast Days, the picture is coming together & falling into focus as the Hand of God is moving in the last days before the return of the Lord. In 2016 a money loving man of unbridled pride lost the popular vote in the US election but WON the oval office. He (Pride) went before the FALL when the foolish cadaverous man was elected in a contested outcome. The Fall continued when in the blink of an eye the walking cadaver was caught in brain fog while debating self loving mammon man of pride in a debate way to early in the cycle! Then we see an assassination attempt on the favored man just before cadaver man drops out in favor of a woman who never won ANY primary votes in her dismal career marked by plagues and bringing an actual plague upon the land culminating in presiding over an open border invasion unsettling both this nation and the hemisphere. DEUT. 28:43 "Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power, while you gradually lose yours. 45 "All these disasters will come on you, and they will be with you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and keep all the laws that he gave you. 46 They will be the evidence of God's judgment on you and your descendants forever." The Hand of God is moving while the US ships are positioned to defend Israel in clearly a last end time war. Meanwhile the US failed to defend itself from foreign invaders while the enemies grow stronger under the Hand of God as He brings His judgment on an apostate nation obsessed with "elections" which go from bad to worse, from Pride, to Fall, to Plague. Plague woman is moving into place as Mammon Man is beginning to lose thoughts & slur speech in public much like Cadaver Man did in that infamous debate. Coincidence?
ReplyDeleteWhat a clever way to describe idiocracy. Sigh
DeleteI have to laugh to keep from crying....Plague Woman, Mammon Man and Cadavar Man. I guess that is what we deserve. If we are still here come November I'm still going with Mammon Man. I had pretty high expectations for a New Wine rapture. Looking now to Feast of Trumpets assuming it's a feast day. Of course if the rapture is truly imminent....it could be any day now. Let's go with that! Maranatha!
Delete9th of Av surprise. Mark Hitchcock posted a new YouTube video 8/15//24 re Mideast & mentioned God's 9th of Av message that most people missed while watching for missiles to be falling on Israel. The missiles did not happen on the 9th of Av. What did happen was an earthquake in Syria 6 miles deep. Did the missile tunnels cave in? Jesus had something to say on the subject of earthquakes.
ReplyDeleteThe US will protect Israel during a war between Israel and Iran. But the US will fail and won't be able to protect Israel anymore. Europe in the shape of the 10-nations Revived Roman Empire with the antichrist as a leader will fill the gap which is left by the fallen US.
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ReplyDeleteAs many of you know, I have been sharing the prophecy of a Great Shaking coming just prior to the Rapture. While learning about almond harvesting in Israel where the trees are SHAKEN so that the almonds can be HARVESTED, it came to me that God might be trying to tell us something! What do YOU think?
ReplyDeleteSEPTEMBER, the GREAT Almond SHAKING, & The RAPTURE
The shaking is coming soon to Sodom USA Mystery Babylon/Daughter of Babylon. Richard Pearson's book covers the topic very well as does the website of Prophecy USA re the 53 Descriptions of America’s Role in Bible Prophecy https://prophecyusa.org/ Remember Israel will soon find no friends among the nations when their time of trouble reaches fruition. One clue the USA is reaching its zenith is the choice of candidates running for president & the fact that no declining empire in history ever made a U turn per the Prophet Daniel. Cause for celebration is upon us as we read the neon handwriting on the wall. The USA needs to be taken out of the way for the Antichrist to rise up offering peace & safety to Israel.
DeleteAMEN, Sutton! The worse things look, the closer we are to going Home! The unsaved will be looking to us for The Answer. Again, for anyone interested, there is a list of some of what has been prophesied to happen that will lead to the Rapture in the "Dominoes to Fall—The Great Shaking" section of my article,
DeleteBabylon and The Last Call!
More on the shaking in Israel: Just watched Jonathan Cahn on TBN re his new book The Dragon Prophecy & War In Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfJ_h0qADpA Rocked my world!
DeleteAt https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/social-media-explodes-over-claims-saying-that-ai-reveals-the-face-of-jesus-using-the-shroud-of-turin-but-its-all-part-of-the-rising-end-times-deception/ "Social Media Explodes Over Claims Saying That AI Reveals The ‘Face Of Jesus’ Using The Shroud Of Turin, But It’s All Part Of The Rising End Times Deception".
ReplyDeleteSharing an interesting interview of Lue Elizondo by Ross Coulthart of NewsNation on the release of Elizondo's book, "Imminent" - the coming full disclosure of UAP/UFO phenomenon,
ReplyDeleteConfessions of a UFO Hunter: Ross Coulthart interviews Lue Elizondo
When viewed through the lens of faith, this topic makes so much more sense. No, we are not alone. The war in heaven has been raging a long time (by human standards)...perhaps as long as mankind has been on Earth. Will it soon, visibly, spill-out on humanity in a very visible and tangible way?
Absolutely. The Bible tells us so.
Keep the Faith!
PR