Babylon the Great
There have been a couple of occasions over the years when an email question or comment from a reader has triggered me to write another article, and I suppose I can add this one to the list. And here's how I got here:
A couple of months ago,
I wrote an article about the fact that
many prophecy folks are looking forward to the complete destruction of Damascus
in a presumed fulfillment of Isaiah 17:1. But not all students of prophecy see
it that way: Some believe this prophecy was completely fulfilled in history and
thus see no need for a future fulfillment.
In that article, I look
at both sides of the argument and in the end I concede that I am officially on
the fence. Although I tend to lean toward the historical fulfillment
interpretation, I freely admit that it could go either way.
But at one point in the
article, I make mention of a prophecy in Isaiah 13:19–20 concerning the
destruction of Babylon:
19Babylon, the glory of kingdoms,
the beauty of the Chaldeans' pride, will be like when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. [That is, utter
decimation. But will it remain that way forever?
That's the question.]
20It will never be inhabited, neither will it be lived in from
generation to generation. [Yep...forever.
Isaiah couldn't possibly be any
clearer.] The Arabian will not
pitch a tent there, neither will
shepherds make their flocks lie down there. [No people, no sheep, nothing.]
(Isaiah
13:19–20 / emphasis & [comments] added)
I indicated that I
(along with many others) believe this has been fulfilled in history in spite of
claims to the contrary, just as some believe the destruction of Damascus was
fulfilled. I note that some disagree and are convinced Isaiah's prophecy concerning
Babylon has not been fulfilled, and as a result are sold on the idea
that the literal city of Babylon must be rebuilt in the end times only to be
destroyed during the Great Tribulation because of what they read in Revelation
17–18. Here's a pertinent quote from that article:
An end-times Babylon? Some
people believe Babylon will be rebuilt in the end times due to references to it
in Revelation 17 and 18. Many Bible commentators are convinced, however, that
rather than references to the literal city of Babylon, these are references to
religious, political, and/or commercial aspects of the kingdom of the
Antichrist. You be the judge.
You be the judge. Indeed. Not long ago,
however, I received a polite email from a very nice, astute reader about how
the prophecies concerning Babylon's destruction had apparently not
been completely, literally fulfilled in history as I indicated, and he linked
to an article that purported to offer proof to that effect. For example, it
showed photographic evidence that there had been some people
living in the area of ancient Babylon in modern times, and that a few of the
original stones had been reused for various purposes.
The intended upshot of
this information was to prove that Isaiah's prophecy concerning Babylon was not
fulfilled in history, and so the destruction of Babylon John refers to in
Revelation 17–18 had to be that fulfillment: John must be
referring to the literal city of Babylon, which must be rebuilt in the
end times, must become the headquarters of the Antichrist's kingdom, and
must be annihilated during the Great Tribulation by the hand of God.
That reader's email
provided the spark, and I couldn't get Babylon and Revelation 17–18 out of my
head. Yes...Babylon the Great. So that's what brought me to this article—and to
the question of whether Revelation 17–18 requires the literal city of Babylon
in Iraq to be rebuilt and become the religious, political, and economic
powerhouse of the world in the Antichrist's kingdom, only to be destroyed by
God during the Great Tribulation...
Or if Revelation 17–18
is talking about something different.
First, let me make it
clear what I'm not going to do in this article:
• I am not going to try and
conclusively prove to you that John is referring to the religious, political,
and commercial aspects of the Antichrist's kingdom, and not necessarily a
literal city (even though I lean in this direction).
• I am not going to try and
conclusively prove to you that John is referring to the literal, rebuilt city
of Babylon. (I freely admit that I held this view for many years, although now
I see problems with it.)
• I am not going to try and
conclusively prove to you that when John speaks of Babylon in Revelation 17–18,
he is really talking about some other city such as Rome, Jerusalem,
both, or some other city (views held by many people).
My goal in this article
is quite simple: I basically just want to share with you some thoughts on
Babylon. I want you to understand a few of the reasons why I am convinced that
no matter what our interpretation of Revelation 17–18 may be, none of us
will ever know for absolute certain exactly what Revelation 17–18 really means
in all its powerful, prophetic splendor until God sovereignly chooses to reveal
it to us...which is likely to be when or perhaps not long before these things
actually unfold during the Tribulation. In other words:
We might as well put
away the soapboxes on this one.
Now, don't get me
wrong...I'm kidding, but just barely. We can all certainly have our personal
opinions and our arguments to support those opinions about what these two
chapters mean—I know I've got mine and many of you out there have yours.
There's never anything wrong with a little healthy debate carried on in the
spirit of trying to ferret out what God's Word is saying to us. It's just that
I am convinced that none of us will ever figure this out with 100 percent
certainty prior to God's sovereign timing, and by the time I finish I trust you
will understand why I say that.
Since that reader's
email focused on viewing Revelation 17–18 as referring to a literal, rebuilt
city of Babylon on the Euphrates River in Iraq, what I want to do here is take
that interpretation of John's prophecy and discuss some of the problems with it.
In the process, I will touch on other related points and by the time we get to
the finish line I hope you can appreciate the fact that no interpretation of
these two chapters is absolutely airtight.
In other words, in the
end, I just want you to see that there are no easy answers as to how to
correctly interpret Revelation 17–18, and I want you to understand in no
uncertain terms why that is the case. And as a result, I sincerely believe my
above remark about putting away the soapboxes on this one will turn out to have
a ring of commonsense truth to it.
The
literal view (and some of its weaknesses)
The view of Revelation 17–18 that sees the need for a literal, rebuilt city of Babylon in the end times is a popular view that is shared by some great commentators I deeply respect, including Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Andy Woods, Joel Rosenberg, Chuck Missler, Mark Hitchcock, and others.
After the fall of Saddam Hussein's government, some of these commentators went so far as to hail what they believed was a new beginning for Iraq, and gushed about how a shiny, rebuilt Babylon was surely on the horizon that would make their anticipated fulfillment of Revelation 17–18 a reality at long last.
Although there have been attempts in the last couple of decades to get something going in regard to rebuilding the ancient city of Babylon, nothing has ever really gotten off the ground and gained much momentum. It was little more than a grandiose vanity project under Saddam Hussein, who fancied himself as a modern-day King Nebuchadnezzar. Unfortunately, he had a few walls rebuilt with ordinary concrete instead of the more suitable mud and straw-baked bricks and actually ended up doing more harm than good to some of the existing ruins. So...at least for now, Babylon ain't lookin' so great.
Overall, such efforts haven't made it past the preliminary stages and any such project has floundered in spite of the best efforts of some well-intentioned people. Of course, that doesn't mean Babylon will never be rebuilt—that could still happen at some point in the future. As I said, I'm not out to disprove the literal view because it could be right.
But this view is not
without problems, and I want to briefly consider a few of the issues with the
idea of interpreting Revelation 17–18 to mean there will be a literal, rebuilt
city of Babylon in Iraq during the Tribulation.
• Literal
precision or apocalyptic hyperbole?
Long before John wrote the book of Revelation, the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah wrote prophecies concerning the fate of the wicked city of Babylon. And although Isaiah 13–14 and Jeremiah 50–51 certainly encompass the fall of Babylon that would occur later in 539 BC, students of the Bible argue about how much of what they prophesy bleeds over into the last days—and it's difficult to discount the possibility that some of it does.
Like any semi-competent student of Scripture, I agree that the Bible should be interpreted as literally as common sense and context allow. But there are times when we have to decide if a passage of Scripture contains some graphic details that are meant to be taken literally, or if the writer is using exaggerated images to emphasize his point and paint a gloriously graphic image of something God is telling us He is going to do in the future.
For example, in Isaiah
13:19 the prophet says the fall of Babylon will be like "when God overthrew Sodom and
Gomorrah," which, as you know, involved annihilation so sudden and so
devastating that it calls to mind the image of a meteorite striking the earth.
In Jeremiah
50:15 the prophet says that "her walls are thrown down," or
completely razed. But these things never actually happened—not in the
sixth century BC and at no time since.
Yes, Babylon was clearly
conquered by the Medes in 539 BC; but as far as the walls are concerned, the
Medes just snuck in under them and staged a coup (Dan. 5). As a result, most of
Babylon's magnificent infrastructure remained intact, although the city was
ultimately left abandoned by around AD 900–1000 and the city's massive walls
slowly crumbled into ruins over the centuries.
Of course, if these prophecies have already been completely fulfilled, then there is no reason we should require a literal, rebuilt Babylon in the future.
But if their complete
fulfillment is still future, then we have no choice but to look forward to that
fulfillment in the end times.
And that's part of the problem here. Both Isaiah and Jeremiah use a healthy dose of what I like to refer to as "apocalyptic hyperbole" in describing Babylon's fall. And by that I simply mean powerful, colorful, and evocative words and phrases that paint a vivid, often terrifying picture of what God intends to accomplish, which is frequently connected with His judgment on some city, nation, or people group.
In using such language, however, Isaiah and Jeremiah sometimes describe things in ways that don't correspond with the literal details of what occurred in the fall of Babylon in 539 BC. But we can't discount the possibility that they are using such language to magnify and glorify what God said He would do.
Or should we ignore the
events of 539 BC and await a literal fulfillment of these prophecies concerning
the destruction of Babylon? Or should we interpret the word "city"
figuratively and go in a different direction??
Welcome to the prophetic
crossroads.
The point is that many
prophecy people argue that the context in each of these two prophetic passages
skips by the sixth century BC, and speaks directly to the end times as does
Revelation 17–18 (some say Isaiah and Jeremiah are speaking to both 539 BC and
the end times). This makes them argue that there must be a real humdinger of a
fall of Babylon in our future in which the prophets' graphic words are
literally fulfilled.
And that requires
a rebuilt Babylon.
So, for those who see
the need for a literal, rebuilt Babylon during the Tribulation, the argument
goes basically like this:
1. Both Isaiah and
Jeremiah were prophesying in regard to the end times (or at least their
prophecies can be viewed as extending to the end times).
2. Their prophecies
concerning the fall of Babylon were clearly never fulfilled in history, at
least not in the literal sense.
3. Since Revelation 17–18
clearly draws upon these two prophetic passages, John must be expanding on
these prophecies and describing a yet future literal fulfillment of Babylon's
destruction.
4. And that
requires a rebuilt Babylon. Q.E.D.
But others ague that
this is not necessarily required based on what I said about apocalyptic
hyperbole. Your quarter, your call.
• Hey,
what about Edom, Moab, and Ammon?!
Another problem we run
into in regard to interpreting Revelation 17–18 as requiring Babylon to be
rebuilt in the end times so it can experience God's prophesied judgment during
the Tribulation has to do with other biblical cities and areas that have been
promised something quite similar.
And they have bitten the
historical dust just like Babylon.
Case in point: Edom,
Moab, and Ammon. In Ezekiel 35, the prophet talks about how God will judge
people groups who have long hated and fought against His people Israel, and
Ezekiel prophesies against Mount Seir. Mount Seir includes Edom, Moab, and
Ammon, and in verse 14 the prophet writes:
14Thus said the Lord GOD; When
the whole earth rejoices, I will make you desolate. ["You"
refers to Mount Seir: Edom, Moab, and Ammon.]
(Ezekiel 35:14 AKJV / emphasis
& [comments] added)
Now, some people pin
this to historical times, and they could be right. Others say it is an end-time
judgment on all of Israel's enemies in that region, and they could be
right. Some say the most likely time when "the whole earth rejoices"
would be the climax of the Great Tribulation when God finally judges His
enemies and establishes the kingdom He promised His people so long ago. But
here's the problem:
If God judges and
destroys Edom, Moab, and Ammon in the Tribulation (as He does Babylon), then
does that mean these three kingdoms must be literally reconstructed to their
biblical form, just like the city of Babylon??
And if not, why not? Why
should we require a literal, rebuilt Babylon that will be judged and destroyed
by God in the Great Tribulation, but not a literal, rebuilt Edom, Moab, and
Ammon if these will also be judged and destroyed around the same time by
the same God? Why does Babylon deserve special treatment?
And the walls came
a-tumblin' down: While I'm at it, note that if we need a rebuilt Babylon to
fulfill the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and John, we need a Babylon that
resembles the original. Sources differ, but we need a Babylon with something
like 50–60 miles of walls that were about 80 feet thick and over 300 feet tall.
The Babylonians held chariot races on top of these walls! And if Jeremiah says
her walls must be thrown down, that means our literal, rebuilt Babylon must
have walls for this to be fulfilled in the end times.
And we're talkin'
W-A-L-L-S.
Anything less just
doesn't cut the literal mustard, all while the results of the best efforts at
"rebuilding" Babylon wouldn't make a decent amusement park.
In reality, most
commentators believe prophecies of such end-time judgments should be
interpreted to mean that the regions formerly occupied by those people groups
will experience some kind of judgment in the Tribulation. And as I said, some
take such prophecies in a broader sense to refer to eschatological judgment on
all of Israel's regional enemies in a collective sense.
• A
little of this, a little of that.
Many who interpret
Revelation 17–18 as speaking to a literal, rebuilt Babylon in the end times
make the following argument:
"It's clear that
Revelation 17–18 draws heavily from Isaiah 13–14 and Jeremiah 50–51 concerning
Babylon's destruction, and so John must also be focusing on Babylon in a
literal sense. Thus John must be rehashing the same prophecies in regard to
Babylon's final, end-time destruction."
It's true that John does
draw from both Isaiah and Jeremiah's prophecies, but there are problems with
this argument. The problem is that in Revelation 17–18 John also draws from Old
Testament prophecies concerning a number of other cities, and in so doing
effectively creates a prophetic composite of an end-time "Babylon"
that hasn't necessarily been revealed to modern readers yet. Two of the prime
candidates are as follows:
Rome:
Back in John's day, few
people would have missed the reference to a city that sits on seven hills or
mountains (Rev. 17:9), which had long been and still is to this day a symbol of
Rome. Not only that, but the word "Babylon" was often used by first-century
believers to refer to Rome, which was the world's capital of idolatry and
religious persecution.
Jerusalem:
Throughout the Old
Testament, the word "harlot" is used in reference to a disobedient
and idolatrous Israel (2 Chron. 21:11; Ezek. 16:15, etc.), and John uses the
word "harlot" here in his prophecy against Babylon (Rev. 17:5). Not
only that, but John's description of the woman's garments (Rev. 17:4) clearly
calls to mind the garments of Israel's high priest (Exod. 28:5).
Similarly, Revelation
17–18 can also be said to draw references to Sodom and Gomorrah, Tyre, Edom, and Nineveh, but I won't take the
time to go down these particular rabbit holes because the details are not
essential to the point I want to make.
The point is that what
this suggests to us is that instead of insisting that Revelation 17–18 must be
speaking exclusively of a literal, rebuilt Babylon as many believe, perhaps we
should consider the possibility that John's prophecy points to all of these
cities in a collective sense, and for a reason. And that reason may be that
John's prophecy is actually painting a composite picture of something that
didn't exist in his day, and that won't be revealed until a time preordained by
God. And that could conceivably be the Antichrist's kingdom.
• The
devil is in the details.
Many people who adhere
to the view that Babylon must literally be rebuilt in the end times fly right
by one small detail that constitutes a key difference between the Babylon of
Jeremiah 51 and that of Revelation 18. The following two passages reveal this
minor but telling detail.
In Jeremiah 51, we are
told this:
63And it shall be, when
you have made an end of reading this book, that you shall bind a stone to it,
and cast it into the middle of Euphrates: [i.e. into the middle of
a river]
64And you shall say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not
rise from the evil that I will bring on her:
(Jeremiah 51:63–64a AKJV
/ emphasis & [comments] added)
But in Revelation 18, we
are told this:
21And a mighty angel took
up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, [i.e.
into the sea, not a river] saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be
thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
(Revelation 18:21 AKJV /
emphasis & [comments] added)
The literal city of
Babylon was on the Euphrates River, but nearly 300 miles from the nearest sea
(which would have been the Persian Gulf). A river and a sea are two very
different things. Follow along carefully:
• If the angel casts the stone into the
Euphrates River, then he is not throwing it into the sea.
• If the angel casts the stone into the sea,
then he is not throwing it into the Euphrates River.
There are a number of
differences between Revelation 17–18 and both Isaiah 13–14 and Jeremiah 50–51,
and this may well be the most trivial of the bunch. But it's still a difference that
raises legitimate questions about whether or not Revelation 17–18 is talking
about a literal, rebuilt city of Babylon or something different and perhaps a
bit more more figurative.
Or perhaps I should say
a bit more mysterious.
• It's
a mystery.
At this point, I hope
that at the very least I have impressed upon you the fact that properly
interpreting Revelation 17–18 is no easy task, and even the most popular views
have at least some weaknesses and difficulties, some of which are not easy to
effectively answer.
But there is one
extremely important detail in John's prophecy that many good people seem to
just blow right by as it if were a triviality that didn't really matter or mean
much. And that one little detail lays it all to rest, and tells us in no
uncertain terms that we will never know the correct interpretation of
Revelation 17–18 with certainty until God chooses to reveal it to us. And that
detail is one single word:
5And on her forehead a
name was written, "MYSTERY, [Greek: mustérion] BABYLON THE GREAT, THE
MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
(Revelation 17:5 / emphasis
& [comments] added)
And that one single word
would be "mystery." In reality, using the word "mystery"
here is almost redundant, because virtually everything in these two chapters is
an impenetrable mystery that people have been arguing about for the last two
thousand years and continue to argue about to this day.
Recall, however, that
the Greek word mustérion John uses in this verse has a special meaning
throughout the New Testament, and I'll defer to Strong's Lexicon for the
details:
In the New Testament,
"mustérion" refers to a divine secret or truth that is hidden from
human understanding but revealed by God through His Spirit. [When
He's good and ready to reveal it, that is.] It often pertains to God's redemptive
plan, which was once concealed but is now disclosed to believers. The term
underscores the idea that certain aspects of God's will and purpose are beyond
human comprehension until God chooses to reveal them.
(emphasis & [comments] added)
— Strong's Lexicon
[Source]
Note also that when the
angel begins to tell John about the "mystery" in Revelation 17:7, it
becomes clear that the word "mystery" applies to pretty much the
entire prophecy, not just the details concerning the city he refers to as "Babylon
the Great." Then the angel proceeds to use other symbols to
"explain" the mystery, so at the end of the day it's all still a bit
mysterious.
And that's the point.
John's vision concerning Babylon is a mustérion, and by definition that
means its true meaning will remain a mystery until the time comes for God to
reveal it to us—which will be whenever all this begins to unfold with
undeniable clarity.
• Time-bloat.
One final point that I
want to mention has about as much to do with plain old ordinary common sense as
it does with interpreting the text of Scripture.
And it is a point that
virtually nobody ever seems to stop and consider.
I wish I had a nickel
for every time I heard someone casually make a remark like the following:
"Revelation 17–18
is clearly telling us that during the Tribulation, Babylon will be rebuilt to
its former glory and become the seat of the Antichrist's global government, a
global religion, and a global economic system."
Can I get an amen. But
what say we pause for a moment and start thinking like civil engineers, shall
we?
Have you ever stopped to
consider how long it would take to build a world-class city pretty much from
scratch? And that is basically what we are talking about here.
Those with the literal view see this Babylon the Great that John is prophesying
about as a shiny new metropolis that is the political, economic, and religious
powerhouse of the entire world—the seat of a global government, a global
economic system, and a global religion. For them, Babylon is a literal city
that according to Revelation 17:18 will reign over the kings of the earth. And
again, they might be right.
Of course, those with
alternative viewpoints might argue that a city cannot literally rule
over the kings of the earth—only a system of global government can do
that. So, they might say, get over the idea that John's Babylon the Great has
to refer to a literal city. And in response, others would likely accuse them of
nitpicking. But nitpicking or no, the point is this:
When people talk about
such a city being built during the seven-year Tribulation, they have
entered the prophetic twilight zone.
I did a bit of reading
online about the building of cities just to satisfy my curiosity, and of course
opinions vary widely. It obviously depends on a number of factors, and
estimates range from a blazing, turbo-charged five years to a laboriously long
30–40 years. I read enough to convince me, however, that a realistic estimate
for the building of a powerhouse of a city with today's technology that would
warrant being called "Babylon the Great" would likely be in the 10–15
year range (and even that may be lowballing it).
So, let's dispense with
the idea that this shiny new Babylon is built during the
Tribulation. I'm sorry, but that's bordering on the absurd—that's just not
gonna happen. It simply makes no sense.
Let's think this through
for a moment: Revelation 6:2 seems to indicate that the Antichrist begins his
meteoric rise to global power around the beginning of the Tribulation (going
out "conquering and to conquer"), and his actual 42-month kingdom
begins at its midpoint. If a literal Babylon would take 10–15 years to build,
for one thing that would confirm what Scripture seems to indicate, which is
that this global system is already in place when the Antichrist assumes power
in his kingdom. In other words, before the midpoint of the Tribulation, that
literal Babylon would need to be finished and ready to go.
Not for him: I believe that the
system of global government the Antichrist assumes control of was not created for
him—it appears that he works himself into the right place at the right time and
when that right time comes, Satan arranges for his man to take the reins of
power. Satan will have groomed this man for such a role in the end times, and
the Antichrist takes control of a global system that has already been put in
place.
But if this rebuilt
Babylon is to be the seat of the Antichrist's kingdom (which begins at the
midpoint of the Tribulation), and only the giddiest of optimists would say that
the construction of this literal Babylon has so much as gotten off the ground, it
would tell us that the midpoint of the Tribulation is at least 10–15
years in the future (assuming construction began today). That, in
turn, tells us that the treaty of Daniel 9:27 that launches the Tribulation is
at least 7–12 years away—let's just say about a decade. And that is
theoretically possible.
But that presents us
with the $64,000 question:
Q. How does that jive with
the current flow of prophetic events?
This is sure to raise
some questions in the minds of many prophecy watchers. Obviously I can't sit
here and tell you that things can't work out this way, because they can.
But to many watchmen, I'm sure putting off the launching of Tribulation for
another decade (or more) would seem like a bit of a stretch considering the way
the prophetic scenario is advancing and rapidly congealing. On the plus side,
however, don't forget one important fact:
The good news is that
this "time-bloat"
issue has nothing to do with the Rapture.
The Rapture could happen today, and the
end-time scenario would shift into overdrive.
The bottom line is that
this literal, rebuilt Babylon point of view forces us to fundamentally reassess
our ideas about the timing of key end-time events, and consider ways to fit a
bigger piece into the puzzle. As a result, this time-bloat factor the literal
view unavoidably introduces might cause some to discount the literal
interpretation of Revelation 17–18 and consider other interpretive angles. And
that's the whole point:
There are other
interpretive angles to consider.
Silly
old Satan
As you can see, I'm
really not here to sell you anything in this article. I just want to emphasize
that there are plenty of good people with different views of the interpretation
of John's prophecy in Revelation 17–18, and get across to you the fact that
those views invariably have questions associated with them that are not always
easy to answer. And in the end...
I am convinced that the
Word itself clearly tells us that none of us will ever know the mystery of this
prophecy for certain until God reveals it.
Many do not
see the requirement for a literal, rebuilt city of Babylon, so at least they
can say goodbye to the time-bloat issue, for one thing. Some see John's
prophecy as simply speaking to a global leader who, along with a global
religion, a global government, and a global economic system, will rule the
world in the end times and will hunt down and execute millions of believers in
the Tribulation with no need for a literal, rebuilt Babylon on the Euphrates
River.
Some see Revelation
17–18 speaking of a literal city, but just not a rebuilt Babylon. As I
mentioned, some believe John is speaking of Rome or Jerusalem. Some even say
Mecca, although that's based on the assumption that the global religion in the
end times is Islam (and they assume this because they believe the Antichrist is
a Muslim).
Although it is a popular
view, I disagree with the idea that the global religion of the end times is
Islam (in spite of the fact that I agree with the argument that the Antichrist
will likely be from a Muslim background). I think jumping to the conclusion
that Islam in its current form will be the global religion of the Antichrist's
kingdom is a weak view born largely of convenience that ignores a wealth of
compelling facts (although it does sell a lot of books on prophecy).
Personally, I believe
the end-time global religion will be something that leaves Islam in the
proverbial dust. I've written about this before, but I strongly suspect
it will involve supposed contact with a phony alien race that allegedly seeks
to help mankind evolve spiritually, get through the coming time of "earth
changes" (i.e. the judgments of the Tribulation), and stop foolishly
clinging to archaic myths such as the Bible. And anyone who doesn't go all in
on this will be seen as a danger to the future of the earth and of the human
race, and will have to be eliminated for the good of all of mankind.
Hey, if I'm wrong, then
ever since 1947*, silly old Satan has
been wasting his time trying to convince the world there are aliens out there
who have been visiting us for years in their super-duper spacecraft (that
inexplicably keep crashing in the desert on a regular basis) and who are just dying
to introduce themselves to us and show off their cool technology.
(*And I'm sure it's just
a bizarre coincidence that the UFO/alien narrative was born near Roswell, New
Mexico the moment it became clear that the U.N. would approve the establishment
of an independent nation for the Jews in accordance with Bible prophecy.)
And I can't discount the
possibility that the same silly old Satan has been the one who has tried and
failed numerous times to get people to rebuild the ancient city of Babylon into
a city from which his man the Antichrist will rule the world, presumably
because he holds to the literal view of Revelation 17–18 with its rebuilt
Babylon we have been discussing in this article.
No? Hey, if God says
something in Scripture is a mustérion, I guaran-dog-tee you Satan is in
the same position we're in:
He ain't gonna know
exactly how to interpret it either until God reveals it.
From Greg Lauer @ A Little Strength—APR '25
When we read Rev. 17 and 18, we see that Mystery Babylon's role in the end times is to be the global purveyor of luxurious living. She is a city/nation/system that thrives as the center of world trade - trade which promotes greed, luxuriousness and fornication to all the world's other peoples. Which city/nation/system on the current world scene promotes those three specific sins? I would argue: not current day Rome; not current day Iraq; and not current day Jerusalem. I would argue that a hermeneutic that views Mystery Babylon through the lens of the current day United States of America makes the most sense. This linkage is further supported by considering that the apostle Peter and John the Revelator both referred to the ancient Roman empire as 'Babylon' in coded language in the New Testament. Current day Rome is not the center of a global military power. Some like Dave Hunt argue that the Roman Catholic Church fits the bill as Mystery Babylon. However, it's hard to see how such could be the case, as the Vatican is not a promoter of global luxuriousness, greed and fornication; nor is it the head of a military power with a Senate/emperor/etc. in the way ancient Rome was.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with you, Zachary,
DeleteTy Green recently did an interesting study on this and (IIRC) came to the same conclusions. I believe that Mystery Babylon is a system, society, uni-polar economic/military/social power that has sway over (lords itself over) the multi-polar beast system. Once she is destroyed in a day by fire (Revelation 18:8), nobody will found living in her ever again. She will be destroyed from the face of the earth and never rise again. This is not to say that nobody will be living in the United States or that the US will cease to exist. It may simply mean that the socio-economic system that has been the United States, as it has been since the end of World War II, has come to an end and is no longer the global super-power that it was economically, militarily, politically or socially. If any nation on the face of the earth is a living image of ancient Rome it is America.
4 Then I heard another voice from
heaven saying, "Come out of her,
my people, lest you take part in
her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
(Revelation 18:4 ESV)
It is a hard thing to say, yet it is the truth. Judgment is coming on the inhabitants of the earth and Babylon the Great will be stripped bare and laid waste. Trim your lamps and keep them filled at all times and be ready for the coming of the Bridegroom. Fill your heart with the Love of (and for) the LORD sharing Him with all God gives you. Love Him first and foremost as the midnight hour approaches. Keep His Word and do not deny His Name. His Word is Christ and His Name is Jesus!
Maranatha,
PR
I am and have been for a long time an advocate of Jer 50 and 51 describing America and her downfall. Both chapters describe a nation that is eerily descriptive of the USA as a nation, (not a city) seeing it lists cities in plural in one verse about their destruction. This one is described as the "Daughter of Babylon" and specifies the end times in another verse. There is even a verse about Fortifying the heights to heaven (Space Force?) yet she will fall from within. And a verse about filling her with young men (from other places) Open Borders anyone?
ReplyDeleteI consider Rev 17-18 to be about the false religion to come and how it rides the beast until it is devoured and decimated. This one is described as a Mystery (Religion) and is a city on 7 hills.
I've wondered in recent times if that might reference the 7 Mountains Mandate stuff. It certainly could describe the Vatican City in whatever form the religion ends up in the future with the Abraham Accords.
In other words, I don't believe that Jer 50 & 51 are talking about the same Babylon as Rev 17 & 18.
ReplyDeleteAmerica prides itself in everything, considers itself the center of all things great.
Everyone asks the question why is she not listed in the Bible? I submit she is and is given the name of "Daughter of Babylon" based on her attributes.
The names of the evil person or nation are often not spoken or even remembered in scripture, only their nature as a lesson to be learned.
The last and the greatest of the Babylonic religions currently practiced by 1.6 billion people has a religious city in the desert by the sea. It is next to the port city of Jeddah Saudi Arabia on the red sea, a highly used water way for the oil and luxury goods that the house of Saud transports both in and out of Saudi Arabia. It is there that the ARABIAN pitches his tent.
ReplyDeleteThat same religion which surrounds Israel currently is seeking to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. It is full of violent hatred. And is the only religion that currently exist whos stated goal is the eradication of all Jews and Christians preferably by beheading in order to establish a global caliphate with Jerusalem as their capital. They are patiently waiting the appearance of their mahdi and his helper Issa the returned Prophet Jesus of Islam who they believe will be a destroyer of crosses and lead the Christians and the rest of the world to Islam. And those that will not submit are to be killed by smiting their necks in the last great global jihad.
The only thing that would be necessary to whip the Islamic world into a final Jihad killing spree would be for them to become convinced that their mahdi had arrived and their Prophet Jesus had returned. And all that that would really take is a Man claiming to be the Jesus of Islam doing signs and miracles and lying wonders calling fire down from heaven and wiping them into an apocalyptic frenzy. The last great Jihad.
Imagine what 1.6 billions muslims convinced that their end times had come and that they are to convert or kill their neighbors all around the world would be like. That would look like Isis only everywhere at once. Most don't know but Isis was motivated primarily by their belief in apocalyptical Islam. Isis was our first real glimpse of apocalyptic Islam. Forget clashing armies those armies would be useless against Muslim true believers scattered throughout all the nations of the earth becoming demonically violent in the name of their mahdi and Issa Jesus of Islam. That would truly be violence unlike anything that has ever been or ever could be again. Peace genuinely taken from all four corners of the earth.
Europe would be a blood bath if the 10s of millions of military age muslim men that they have imported became convinced that the time of the mahdi had come. All it would really take would be Jesus of Islam their prophet showing up calling fire down from heaven and proclaiming the Christians as wrong and Islam as the one true way. He would be in appearance as a lamb (the lamb of God) but would speak like a dragon.